From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 6 23:27:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F1C1065670; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from constantine.ticketswitch.com (constantine.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e:1::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40F98FC1E; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.64.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by constantine.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PPkSX-000F4n-3V; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:27:05 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PPkSW-000Fuv-Gf; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:27:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:27:04 +0000 Message-Id: To: avg@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4CFD6EC6.4040700@freebsd.org> From: Pete French Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:27:06 -0000 > Basically if it feels like you are the first one to report the problem, then, > unfortunately, the onus is on you... Sure, I've been around here long enough to know this - was just trying to see if anyone else knew about it, as it takes so long to boot over the network that I really didn't want to scrub my nstall to try the most recent snapshot only to find it doesnt work (we are talking 3 hours or so wasted potentially), or to duplicate testing for something already well known. > For non-ports problems the PR database is a burial ground. It's not very > frequent to see an issue reported via a PR to get resolved unless the reporter Actually my expereice of filing PR's has been pretty positive over the years. Am a bit surprised you feel this way. Investigating and posting here also generates reseults, but I do like to tag them onto a PR in the end, just so they dont get lost. I can't think of a serious kernel bug I filed a PR for which wasn't investigated and resolved, sorry if you've had less success. > So, my concrete suggestion is - please first try the latest version of FreeBSD > that you consider to possibly use in the near future. If there is a problem > with it, then please get back and let's try to get it solved. Well, am trying to boot the most recent 8.1 snapshot right now, lets see how that goes... -pete.