From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 23 22:25:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF5E16A46D for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) Received: from cg-p07-fb.rzone.de (cg-p07-fb.rzone.de [81.169.146.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D8A13C45A for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de (mrclete-mo-p00-ob.mail [192.168.63.64]) by charnel-fb-07.store (RZmta 15.6) with ESMTP id G042c5k0NGYTjc ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:54:49 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from: ) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 X-RZG-AUTH: kN+8IwndSMLtCuBFVkRfThJXBOX2xi0RUSsjpsWeoPRmTmyCUDrmirx0itdJuLTOx88N Received: from postit (frnk-590ea811.pool.einsundeins.de [89.14.168.17]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo17) (RZmta 15.4) with ESMTP id w01c6ek0NGZIS1 ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:53:34 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from: ) Received: from www.home.roberte.eu (localhost.home.roberte.eu [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m0NLrVk7053634; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:53:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: Bill Moran , jackbarnett@gmail.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:53:31 +0100 Message-Id: <20080123213211.M8757@Robert-Eckardt.de> In-Reply-To: <20080123142316.2d3ef433.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <4797917B.4020600@gmail.com> <20080123142316.2d3ef433.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.183.50 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: VM Options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:25:51 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:23:16 -0500, Bill Moran wrote > In response to Jack Barnett : > > > > Are there any good VM Options for FreeBSD? > > > > There is VMWare in ports; which I really like - but it's a few years old > > and still stuck on version 3 the last time I tried it. It depends on what you want to do. Do you want to run another OS (even a different FreeBSD release)? Is it sufficient to prevent processes seeing each other? > VMWare on FreeBSD is a no-op. Someone should really remove that port. That's nonsense. The current (very old) port is quite out-dated and it took me some time to get it running right e.g. with VMware 3 on FreeBSD 6.2. But it works! In most (though not all) cases Xen is a useful alternative to VMware. Of course Xen is driven by the Linux hype. All majors OS vendors support Xen. When virtualization solutions find their way into next generation's CPUs Xen might take over VMware. Xen is still weak on the management side. About a year ago rsync.net's 2007 code bounty called for a newer VMware port, but it's still in the state "currently in progress" (for half a year now). > jail is your best option. See the handbook for details and install the > ezjail port to make it more manageable. The drawback is that jail > can only run other FreeBSD instances in the VM. Although jails are available far longer than zones in Solaris they have fallen behind. They lack a lot of features, e.g. no ressource management. Even things that work in native FreeBSD don't work in jails. (ulimit) > Next up would be qemu. I use it a lot and it works a lot like > VMWare. The disadvantage to qemu is that it's really slow. VMware burns quite a lot of CPU. QEMU is much worse. > Down the list are a number of technologies in various stages of > development, such as Xen. I don't recommend any of them at this time > unless you want to help with development. It really depends on what you want to achieve. Regards, Robert PS: People say, I sometimes tend to see things to negative. -- Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de