From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 11 15:32: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2676937C941; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A05138055; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01203; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:31:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14660.4950.94654.399889@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:31:50 -0400 (EDT) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: David Gilbert , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Worst case swapping. In-Reply-To: <200006112220.PAA29235@apollo.backplane.com> References: <14660.3153.658226.142964@trooper.velocet.net> <200006112220.PAA29235@apollo.backplane.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Dillon writes: Matthew> :Now the application in question (Netscape) usually runs Matthew> around 50 to :75 megs, so that swapping activity is Matthew> effectively swapping an amount Matthew> 50-75MB is a lot, but if you have 256MB of ram it can't Matthew> be the cause unless there are other active things eating Matthew> similar amounts of ram. Matthew> It kinda sounds like a runaway to me. A ps axl during Matthew> these heavy paging periods should shed some light on the Matthew> problem. Believe me, I look at these things. Yes there is a lot going on and a lot using memory. I normally have about 20% to 25% of my Gig of swap used... meaning that I have allocated roughly double my RAM in applications. And when this worst-case happens, memory is full... but the only active application is Netscape. On my home machine, the same thing tends to happen. It only has 128M and vastly fewer things going on. I see cases were I'm surfing for 20-30 minutes and I will hit this 10 to 30 second (longer, becase the swap at home is slower) gap in netscape response. The only other applications running would be something like a small UUCP transfer or a small amount of NFS traffic when the wife's (diskless) machine changes screensavers. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message