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Date:      Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:08:39 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        Alan Somers <asomers@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r352231 - head/lib/libc/sys
Message-ID:  <20f4e7af5b82e47fddf604975ff3e853c231720d.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <201909122002.x8CK2Sxh005042@slippy.cwsent.com>
References:  <201909111948.x8BJmWZn092483@repo.freebsd.org> <63cf915c92b92b07e19337849269ec6bd0dc0d1b.camel@freebsd.org> <201909122002.x8CK2Sxh005042@slippy.cwsent.com>

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On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 13:02 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <
> 63cf915c92b92b07e19337849269ec6bd0dc0d1b.camel@freebsd.org>, 
> Ian Le
> pore writes:
> > On Wed, 2019-09-11 at 19:48 +0000, Alan Somers wrote:
> > > Author: asomers
> > > Date: Wed Sep 11 19:48:32 2019
> > > New Revision: 352231
> > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/352231
> > > 
> > > Log:
> > >   getsockopt.2: clarify that SO_TIMESTAMP is not 100% reliable
> > >   
> > >   When SO_TIMESTAMP is set, the kernel will attempt to attach a
> > > timestamp a
> > 
> > s
> > >   ancillary data to each IP datagram that is received on the
> > > socket. Howeve
> > 
> > r,
> > >   it may fail, for example due to insufficient memory. In that
> > > case the
> > >   packet will still be received but not timestamp will be
> > > attached.
> > >   
> > >   Reviewed by:	kib
> > >   MFC after:	3 days
> > >   Differential Revision:	https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21607
> > > 
> > > Modified:
> > >   head/lib/libc/sys/getsockopt.2
> > > 
> > > Modified: head/lib/libc/sys/getsockopt.2
> > > =================================================================
> > > ==========
> > 
> > ===
> > > --- head/lib/libc/sys/getsockopt.2	Wed Sep 11 19:29:40
> > > 2019	(r35223
> > 
> > 0)
> > > +++ head/lib/libc/sys/getsockopt.2	Wed Sep 11 19:48:32
> > > 2019	(r35223
> > 
> > 1)
> > > @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@
> > >  .\"     @(#)getsockopt.2	8.4 (Berkeley) 5/2/95
> > >  .\" $FreeBSD$
> > >  .\"
> > > -.Dd February 10, 2019
> > > +.Dd September 11, 2019
> > >  .Dt GETSOCKOPT 2
> > >  .Os
> > >  .Sh NAME
> > > @@ -431,7 +431,8 @@ option is enabled on a
> > >  .Dv SOCK_DGRAM
> > >  socket, the
> > >  .Xr recvmsg 2
> > > -call will return a timestamp corresponding to when the datagram
> > > was receiv
> > 
> > ed.
> > > +call may return a timestamp corresponding to when the datagram
> > > was receive
> > 
> > d.
> > > +However, it may not, for example due to a resource shortage.
> > >  The
> > >  .Va msg_control
> > >  field in the
> > > 
> > 
> > So I guess this actually happened to someone... is it a common
> > thing
> > for the timestamp to fail?  I ask because ntpd relies on
> > SO_TIMESTAMP
> > and if this situation really happens and can persist for a long
> > time,
> > ntpd would effectively stop working.
> 
> This reminds me, something that's been on my plate for a couple of
> weeks. 
> Our NTP upline pinged me a few weeks ago regarding IEEE 1588 driver
> support 
> for NICs with hardware support. Linux already has it. I was told
> that 
> someone hrtr has attempted this but that the results weren't
> optimal. 
> That's all I know. Should I open discussion on arch@?

It's something I've been wanting to do for a while, and something that
would be helpful at $work, so a discussion on it sounds like a good
idea.

-- Ian




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