From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 19 14:12:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA0816A47E for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C71C43D46 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:12:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k5JECVEJ016579; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:12:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "David Hoffman" Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:52:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606190852.09200.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:12:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1549/Sat Jun 17 18:20:39 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:12:36 -0000 On Sunday 18 June 2006 19:49, David Hoffman wrote: > * *It appears the page at > http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious > breach of copyright. The article, which was > originally written and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account > soup@arbornet.org, is falsely attributed to the Houston FUG, whose members > maliciously removed all reference to its original creator. On a related > note, the FUG seems to be part of an organized group to convince all Stat= es > to adopt English as an official language, a bigoted and misguided policy. >=20 > Plagiarism should not be tolerated. >=20 > Thanks. 1) Please go outdoors and ride a bike or something. You are apparently way, way overstressed. 2) Using terms like "malicious" without proof (and it appears the claim was completely false based on follow-ups since the user group in question added an attribute once they were notified) reduces your credibility immensely. If anything, if the HouFUG were anywhere as litiguous as you they could probably bring a civil suit of libel against you. :) In general it works better if one calmly works to resolve disputes instead of yelling and screaming and whipping out DMCA notices as the first action. 3) FreeBSD is not a political association and has no political ties. This should be rather obvious. On a general note, if you want to discuss issues, it is generally far more credible and useful to include some content in your argument besides elementary-school style name-calling. You seem to have done this twice in this e-mail for both issues. 4) You also violated FreeBSD mailing list etiquette by cross-posting to four mailing lists. FreeBSD-standards@' charter has to do with conformance to computer standards such as POSIX, etc. Please have the courtesy to make sure the lists you are mailing actually discuss what you think they discuss before posting in the future as most list readers have enough relevant e-mail to wade through as it is. =2D-=20 John Baldwin =A0<>< =A0http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =A0=3D =A0http://www.FreeBSD.org