From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 15:58:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B50106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFBF8FC15 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D5B1008A54; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIx2iD0GDiAL; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEFF10084E3; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Gustafson To: "Brian A. Seklecki" Message-ID: <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <1250265019.2306.35.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.49.22] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 -0000 > No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even > have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use > sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you > need to bootstrap a system. That's a silly answer. The way to get more people to use FreeBSD is to make the installation process as easy and complete as possible. If bootstrapping a system using the livefs file system is possible, then there's no reason that the functionality couldn't or shouldn't be built into the installer. Yes, a higher-level sysadmin can do it...but the vast majority of people who administer servers for a living are not higher-level sysadmins. Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354