From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 14:43:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E49106567F; Fri, 23 May 2008 14:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9798FC1A; Fri, 23 May 2008 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4NEgx2f022252; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:43:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4NEgxnm022251; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:42:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:42:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805231442.m4NEgxnm022251@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kayve@sfsu.edu In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hackers User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 23 May 2008 16:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: /usr/src/Makefile instructions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kayve@sfsu.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:43:04 -0000 KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > Tom Evans wrote: > > I've redirected this to questions@, as this seems more like a 'User > > question/technical support' rather than 'General technical discussion'. > > Please try to keep the mailing lists on topic. > > That list is too busy. I find I don't have to unsubscribe to > "hackers," and it doesn't seem as hard core to misinterpret > what "hackers" are, than say "ports" or "acpi" Well, "hackers" usually means developers, i.e. people hacking on the FreeBSD code. Therefore I'm afraid I have to agree with Tom: Your questions should better go to the questions list. > I realized that "make delete-old" and "make delete-old-libs" > are both part of the "cannonical," I guess because I am going > RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 I always use "make delete-old", as instructed in the /usr/src/UPDATING file, and it has never bitten me. Please have a look at that file; the important part starts at the section titled "To rebuild everything". > On that note, was I given misinformation when I was advised > that it would be impossible to upgrade RELENG_6_2 directly to > RELENG_7 ? "Nothing is impossible!", as Dr. Farnsworth from the Futurama series used to say. :-) But seriously ... I think going from 6.2 to 7.0 should work fine. However, the official notion is that updates across major versions have to be supported only for the latest stable release. Any other configurations might work, but it's not guaranteed. If it fails, you're not expected to complain or ask for help, but instead try the officially supported way (i.e. first update to the latest stable on your existing branch, then update across the major version boundary). If that still fails, you may complain and ask for help. Note that it is IMPORTANT to rebuild *all* of your ports when you update from 6.x to 7.x. (This holds true for any major version update.) If you don't do this, you will get library dependency collisions, i.e. port A uses libc.so.7 and depends on port B, but port B still links against the older libc.so.6. Things will break sooner or later. That's why you should rebuild *all* ports after updating to 7.x. (You can keep older ports only if you are absolutely sure that they are not part of any dependencies, and never will be.) In your previous mail you mentioned: > Things work, but dmesg has errors, Would you please tell us what those errors are? We might be able to help you, but only if you tell us. > and many ports fail and their makes Again: Please post messages and everything relevant to the problems. There are really people on these lists that are willing to help, but we need as much information as possible in order to be able to help. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'