From nobody Wed Aug 6 21:54:35 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4by3x51F5qz64GbW; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 21:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo49.interia.pl (smtpo49.interia.pl [217.74.67.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4by3x45t6Pz3MPr; Wed, 06 Aug 2025 21:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2025 23:54:35 +0200 From: vermaden Subject: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature To: Ceri Davies Cc: "FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org" , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <742CE190-C37F-4665-874E-E3851060E18D@submonkey.net> References: <742CE190-C37F-4665-874E-E3851060E18D@submonkey.net> X-Originating-IP: 45.148.42.1 Message-Id: List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1754517279; bh=o0ACDJN+AMM/Oz3EpGJyESFONq9juOn8pwngu4QojL8=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bL4UsIClWDwfbwvA0xDnzl+S7X5iIiXDPjVNiZLxKISP39wImpyn6ZGM8g4tI8kW7 Q9NdD5ftr6+wyoBeByoAQzk8syscr/X3D8yhTJfZ2/+cPK6V55345se3aDOZGzgdoG sIox2gpSFV12yKZxDTs9mhRgCYx7tTVrsByeAqek= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4by3x45t6Pz3MPr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16138, ipnet:217.74.64.0/22, country:PL] > No, it has the same behaviour. English is not my primary language so I will try to explain in more simple = words as you probably did not understood. NOPE. It DOES NOT has the same behavior. Situation A. A.1. You have FreeBSD 15-CURRENT installed in 'classic' way. A.2. You issue this command: # pkg delete -af A.3. All Third Party packages are deleted from your system. A.4. You FreeBSD 15-CURRENT Base System remain UNTOUCHED. Situation B. B.1. You have FreeBSD 15-CURRENT installed in 'PKGBSD' way. B.2. You issue this command: # pkg delete -af B.3. All Third Party packages are deleted from your system. B.4. You FreeBSD 15-CURRENT Base System is REMOVED with only 2/290 packages= UNTOUCHED Details here: - https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2485#issuecomment-3133359219 Regards, vermaden Temat: Re: PKGBASE Removes FreeBSD Base System Feature Data: 2025-08-06 23:11 Nadawca: "Ceri Davies" <ceri@submonkey.net> Adresat: "vermaden" <vermaden@interia.pl>;=20 DW: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org;=20 >> On 6 Aug 2025, at 18:40, vermaden wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >>>=20 >>> Because that=E2=80=99s what you asked for. >>> Why would the command do anything other than that? >>> If it did not, what command should and would you oppose it existing? >>=20 >> The problem is that the same 'pkg delete -af' command - will behave DIFFERENTLY with PKGBASE and without PKGBASE on the same FreeBSD version system - that is the center of the problem. >>=20 >=20 > No, it has the same behaviour. >=20 > The result on the system may be different, but that is true of many, many commands that make assumptions about the existing configuration of a system. >=20 > Ceri >=20 >=20