From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 11 00:56:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1133F106566B for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E652D8FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:56:53 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LUH00BSZ1A6BE20@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:56:31 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-11-10_05:2011-11-09, 2011-11-10, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1111100258 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:56:30 -0800 Message-id: <38A07712-CC29-4A70-89E2-57DD2BD98400@mac.com> References: <4EB88225.9020702@bredband.net> <20111108205600.7a8e0205.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111108215114.24d336e6.freebsd@edvax.de> <4EBA5EBD.7020501@bredband.net> <86pqh1njww.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> <30329CB5-03FA-4717-81E6-43CC9CE43713@mac.com> <86ipmsl1ee.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> <0953CCAB-C764-413C-9A13-ED5E77D1AEC4@mac.com> To: David Brodbeck X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server and xinit works excellent....almost. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:56:54 -0000 On Nov 10, 2011, at 3:57 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> FreeBSD's users generally are more technically inclined and might be willing to deal with this, but even so, I suspect that most folks would appreciate the system trying to figure out that an AZERTY keyboard layout means French, that JIS means Japanese, that QWERTZ probably indicates German / Swiss / Hungarian, etc. > > I thought I'd mention that OS X takes an interesting approach to this. > When you plug in a keyboard it doesn't recognize, it does a little > dance where it tells you to press certain keys (e.g., "Press the key > to the right of the left Shift key," with a little graphic to help you > understand which key it means) and from the results it infers the > layout. Indeed, yes-- that's KeyboardTypeSection, part of Setup Assistant.app used to perform initial configuration of a new system. While I think it makes a good example, I don't want to evangelize stuff from $REALJOB too strongly. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck