From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jul 26 16:44:23 1995 Return-Path: security-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA28100 for security-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:44:23 -0700 Received: from netmail.austin.ibm.com (netmail.austin.ibm.com [129.35.208.98]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA28094 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:44:21 -0700 Received: from ozymandias.austin.ibm.com (ozymandias.austin.ibm.com [9.3.29.12]) by netmail.austin.ibm.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA208203; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 18:44:19 -0500 Received: from localhost.austin.ibm.com by ozymandias.austin.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03-client-2.6) for security@freebsd.org at austin.ibm.com; id AA18171; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 18:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9507262343.AA18171@ozymandias.austin.ibm.com> To: Jeff Aitken Cc: sef@kithrup.com (Sean Eric Fagan), security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: secure/ changes... In-Reply-To: (Your message of Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:01:48 CDT.) <199507262101.RAA19119@husky.cslab.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 18:43:50 -0500 From: Scott Brickner Sender: security-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jeff Aitken writes: >Although I don't claim to understand much about this whole issue, many >of the net.lawyers (and probably a few real ones too ;) think >Zimmermann is not guilty, but that hasn't stopped the DoJ from >prosecuting him (last I heard). Perhaps Rodney is simply taking the >position that he isn't willing to risk it, even if it seems like >importing crypto software isn't relaly illegal in all cases. The >entire FreeBSD core team has gone to great lengths to avoid any further >confrontations with USL, despite the beliefs of many well informed >people who thought their lawsuit was groundless/pointless/useless/ >frivilous/etc. Perhaps that lesson is carrying over into this issue... They aren't prosecuting him, yet. They're just persecuting him. No formal charges have been brought. I assume you bring this up to point out that the legality of the issue is independent from persecution on the issue. True. But the persecution is still based on a specific prohibition --- export of crypto --- under ITAR. ITAR doesn't cover import. Were import illegal, PRZ would also be harrassed for the import of IDEA. He isn't, ergo import is legal.