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Date:      Mon, 06 Jul 1998 08:50:24 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD in less than 4MB RAM 
Message-ID:  <199807061550.IAA03457@antipodes.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Jul 1998 10:32:14 %2B0200." <Pine.NEB.3.95.980706095339.16181F-100000@korin.warman.org.pl> 

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> Hi,
> 
> This is slightly more general question than in the Subject.
> 
> First issue is: what would it take to squeeze any useful combination of
> kernel, init plus two-three (small) user programs in 4MB? Which
> (dispensable) parts of the kernel require so much space? After removing
> all I could think of (leaving FFS, fd0, and ed0, though) the kernel size
> is still about 700kB big, and quite another question is how this
> translates into running size...

try "du *.o | sort -n" in your compile directory.

> The second issue is this: currently we're unable to boot (using BIOS) and
> mount as / other filesystems than FFS, NFS and CD9660. It would be great
> if we could use MSDOSFS as well (using special version of biosboot, with
> FAT support compiled-in instead of FFS). Device nodes would be on DEVFS.

All you have to do is add the mountroot stuff to MSDOSFS - nobody would 
complain if you did.

> What for? This could help get rid of fbsdboot.exe and related troubles -
> we could just directly start and run (and install!) on MSDOS partition.

Permissions would suck.

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