From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jan 18 12:57:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09765 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cerebus.nectar.com (nectar-gw.nectar.com [204.0.249.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09758 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by cerebus.nectar.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22955; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:57:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from spawn.nectar.com(10.0.0.101) by cerebus.nectar.com via smap (V2.1) id xma022953; Mon, 18 Jan 99 14:57:02 -0600 Received: from spawn.nectar.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spawn.nectar.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02006; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:57:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Message-Id: <199901182057.OAA02006@spawn.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: lists/freebsd X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine In-reply-to: <4.1.19990118133648.064c47f0@mail.lariat.org> References: <4.1.19990118114510.0475fa90@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118095621.04517460@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118092136.0465ede0@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118092136.0465ede0@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118095621.04517460@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118114510.0475fa90@mail.lariat.org> <4.1.19990118133648.064c47f0@mail.lariat.org> Subject: Re: Attempt to relicense BSD code under the GPL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain To: Brett Glass cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:57:02 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18 January 1999 at 13:40, Brett Glass wrote: [snip] > Look at the site more closely. There are several examples of companies > who have created specialized embedded OSes for their products using > the kit. They're now out of luck.... They'd have to give away their > hard work to keep doing it. What is your point? Those companies made a decision when they selected software that is GPL'd. A bad decision, IMO, and yours too, I would gather. [snip] > >I'm not disagreeing with you on this point. I advocate BSD-like licenses > >over GPL. It is the University's perogative to license its software > >as it sees fit, however. > > The software was paid for by OUR money -- by a government grant. The > University has no right to restrict our use of it. Again, this has nothing to do with BSD code being ``relicensed'' as GPL code. Not to mention the fact that your statement is absurd -- I suppose that we American citizens should have full access to all code written by the U.S. Government because we paid for it? > Yes, there is. The collection includes BSD code and is licensed as > a whole under the GPL. It's thus "infected." For good. Brett, have you even read the doc/licensing.tex file? Quoting: Because much of the code in the \oskit\ was ``donated'' by external projects there are a plethora of additional copyrights and licences, but their requirements are straightforward. [snip] To help clarify matters, the Acknowledgements section, below, describes which parts of the \oskit\ are covered by which license(s). [snip -- the Acknowledgements section is more than verbose enough] Have you even looked at the distribution? Source files from other projects retain the original copyright notice. I asked for you to show me where any BSD code was being presented with a GPL license (but you snipped that). I take it that you have not found any? I have seen some files that have a mix of BSD and University of Utah code, and bear both GPL and BSD copyright notices at the top. This is sloppy, and will probably result in troubles for someone someday (recall UCB/AT&T's troubles). But it is hardly the transgression that you seem to want it to be. I think you do a great disservice to the open software community by slinging this mud, meritless as it is. Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message