From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 5 01:34:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11825 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ppp7237.on.bellglobal.com (ppp7237.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.249.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11819 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA01196; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:31:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ac199@hwcn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: tim@localhost Reply-To: ac199@hwcn.org To: John Kelly cc: Chuck Robey , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Donations. In-Reply-To: <34fde4f8.40814877@mail.cetlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, John Kelly wrote: > If FreeBSD developers don't want their "volunteer" project to grow > into a well funded organization, another group will come along who do. I don't really understand the great furour involved in this argument. The number of donations to make any kind of "voting system" at all meaningful simply does not and will not exist in the reasonable future! However, if some people would like to see NFS fixed at any and all cost (that it's already getting attention beside the fact), but are themselves only willing to pay $250 incremental, they should band together through the lists and news. If a group of individuals and/or businesses can guarantee sufficient funds to fully complete & fund such a project, I'm sure Jordan (on behalf on FreeBSD inc.) will gladly take their money for that express purpose, and if not Jordan, I'm sure someone else will. But please, FreeBSD Inc. is not a multi-million dollar operation (nor will it be within the time-frame it should be planning for) and offering donators a vote is akin to offering a promise which it can never keep. That is bad customer-relations, long-term detrimental, and self-destructive. That said, it is much easier for my conscience to let me make a donation when I am guaranteed something in return. Cheap FreeBSD paraphenalia can be 1) way cool, and 2) cheap advertising to attract new users. Chuck brandishing his pitchfork out of the heart of my computer over-top of a "Chuckie Power!"^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HPowered by FreeBSD" embalm would invoke spectator curiousity in FreeBSD and provide a few meagre funds for FreeBSD. [I think, though, anything more expensive than a Chu^H^H^Hpowered by freebsd sticker should not be offered as a "thankyou" for donating, but rather as a product which just happens to have an unusually high mark-up :-]. > And they can easily take all the work done by the poor volunteers and > call their own project BigBucksBSD or whatever they like. Well, we could always call it FreeGPL ;-) (Eeek!). -- tIM...HOEk OPTIMIZATION: the process of using many one-letter variables names hoping that the resultant code will run faster. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message