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Date:      Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:24:16 -0800 (PST)
From:      Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.at, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@whistle.com, wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net>
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980306192416.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980306214647.438u-100000@localhost>

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On 07-Mar-98 Chuck Robey wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Karl Denninger wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 05:49:17PM -0800, Simon Shapiro wrote:
>> > Telcos run equipment on 48VDC.  In most switching rooms, not only you
>> > are
>> > not allowed (and do not have) power grid AC, you cannot even generate
>> > it
>> > inside your own cabinet.
> 
> Unless it's changed in the last 5 years, that's not true.  The telco's   
> test equipment is made by companies like HP, and runs on AC (not to
> mention the technicians stereos!).  Of course they have AC in their
> office, and on every single equipment bay.

My hardware people inform me that virtually all Telcos, domestic and
international do not allow ANY AC equipment installed.  I can belive test
equipment is A/C, but test equipment is not permanently attached,
rack-mounted.

> Of course, their equipment does largely run on 48V nominal (which usually
> means around 55-56 V in fact, else the battery plant'd not ever get
> charged).  Getting buzzed with 48V is nothing, even with 1500 Amps behind
> it, I've been bitten countless times.  Ringing battery is _much_ more
> painful!  Old style teletype, at polar +- 130V, would _really_ wake you
> up (thank god that was interrupted).

We used to run many painful practical jokes with these.  I used to powe an
old tube HiFi amplifier with a collection of these.

BTW, some Telcos now allow A/C equipment in the rack, but not as part of
their network.  Network equipment must be DC, AFAIK.

Simon

Note:  What has that got to do with FreeBSD?  Quite a bit if you want to
install a server in a switch...



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