Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 10:37:40 -0400 From: Jan Knepper <jan@digitaldaemon.com> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org> Cc: void@f-m.fm, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Binary updates (was Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM)) Message-ID: <a1d8800f-7a5f-4d69-9c28-5609f0d413f5@digitaldaemon.com> In-Reply-To: <20240909143239.8F285AF@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <3845d980-7160-4819-82a4-db2281828c8c@app.fastmail.com> <202409090442.4894gGMb086473@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <20240909143239.8F285AF@slippy.cwsent.com>
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On 9/9/24 10:32, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <202409090442.4894gGMb086473@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net>, > Jamie La > ndeg-Jones writes: >> void <void@f-m.fm> wrote: >> >>> ? really? All my -stable and -current machines are recompiled from source. >>> Is this really that rare? >> Mine too (well, I only track stable at the moment, and am only talking about >> 8 >> machines) >> >> I have too many local patches to easily do it any other way. As it is, i sync >> src, patches are automatically applied, then make buildworld etc... is all >> that's needed. >> >> Similar story for ports vs packages - too many patches (and custom options) > Those of us who build from source and build ports, whether manually or > through our own poudriere, are the minority. Just visit the FreeBSD forums. > I attend OpenHack here. People who do use FreeBSD use freebsd-update and > binary packages. (I use freebsd-update and binary packages on some VMs at > $JOB, while maintaining my own network at home as any developer does.) > > And that's a marketing feature of FreeBSD. Most users don't want he hassle > of building and installing an O/S. > > And a co-worker has set up an EC2 instance (thanks cpercival@). > > Out in the real world people use binary updates and binary packages. We > developers are an anomaly these days. > > Just because a few of us build from source doesn't mean the rest of the > world does. > > Probably... Used to compile on every instance of FreeBSD I run. Still do on many, but have moved to using freebsd-update on some. (Just learned Saturday that is is _not_ a good idea to try to update multiple classic jails in parallel (thus at the same time) with freebsd-update. <LOL>)
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