From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 21 19:53:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB016A400 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091E13C447 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 19:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20070521195304.GGVA28445.mxfep01.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com> for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 21:53:04 +0200 Received: from c-5416e555.03-51-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO scode.mine.nu) ([85.229.22.84]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 21 May 2007 21:53:04 +0200 Received: from scode.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scode.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7657C4A6; Mon, 21 May 2007 21:53:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4651F897.9010201@infidyne.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:52:55 +0200 From: Peter Schuller User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gore Jarold References: <475187.33232.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <475187.33232.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig25ACEE43BEE4E26F9223C575" Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VERY frustrated with FreeBSD/UFS stability - please help or comment... X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:53:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig25ACEE43BEE4E26F9223C575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Specifically, I have private departmental fileservers > that other fileservers rsync to using Mike Rubel-style > rsync snapshots: FWIW, since you wondered about being alone in the world, I tend to do similar things but with rdiff-backup, with total file count ranging from a few hundred thousand to a few million. But I also routinely do stuff like rsyncing entire chroots with multiple ports/pkgsrc trees and whatnot. I mostly haven't experienced the problems you describe. (Always with UFS2 and softupdates, if you discount recent stuff with ZFS.) The one thing I *have* experienced is filesystems going nuts after filling them. Specifically I end up with a negative amount of space free, and as soon as you release more space df -h quickly reports the amount of free space dropping (you can see it interactively churning for a few secs) until it settles at some negative amount again and you're back to square one. This has happened once or twice in the past, but not recently. Not sure which release it did happen on; might have been 5.x. It's worth noting that the one thing I don't do is creating multiple links to the same file with any frequency, as happens with the rsync incremental backup approach. --=20 / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org --------------enig25ACEE43BEE4E26F9223C575 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGUfifDNor2+l1i30RCPnSAJ96g/g6YVfJP+j7YqJJrZTnZQeJvACbBWxF K7uaXttacujQiocP3Mo4L7w= =N3bs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig25ACEE43BEE4E26F9223C575--