From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 24 07:06:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858E116A4CE for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 07:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from popimap01.icare.priv (unknown [203.78.64.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A7743D1D for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 07:06:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from satimis@icare.com.hk) Received: from smtpi01.icare.priv ([10.11.12.46]) by popimap01.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:06:10 +0800 Received: from icare.com.hk ([203.88.168.18]) by smtpi01.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:06:09 +0800 Message-ID: <403B6861.8010002@icare.com.hk> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 23:06:09 +0800 From: Stephen Liu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040122 Debian/1.6-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> <200402220142.32703.kstewart@owt.com> <20040224043527.GA85953@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20040224043527.GA85953@ninja.terrabionic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2004 15:06:10.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC4F9F70:01C3FAE7] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Kent Stewart Subject: Re: obsolete files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:06:13 -0000 Hi jsha, >so what, freebsd from scratch is the only way to avoid this? > > Where can I find information on 'freebsd from scratch'. Pointers would be appreciated. TIA B.R. Stephen Liu >and how come make/install world is made like that? shouldn't >the developers try to avoid this kind of thing? > >thanks. > >On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 01:42:32AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: > > >>On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:24 pm, jsha wrote: >> >> >>>hello. >>> >>>does make world leave obsolete files on your system >>>after install? without even the slightest effort to >>>remove them? >>> >>>please say it isn't so. i like make world. >>> >>> >>> >>Worse, it is known to cause fatal situations where you have to use the >>fixit disk to recover your system or do a reinstall. If you upgrade a >>kernel that panics, you will be committed to using the bad build. The >>installworld being run after the installkernel and reboot to single >>user mode is for your protection. >> >>FWIW, even installworld leaves obsolete files on your system at various >>times. >> >>Kent >> >>-- >>Kent Stewart >>Richland, WA >> >>http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html >>