From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:46:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15AE16A4CE for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigass1.bitblock.com (ns1.bitblock.com [66.199.170.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF00C43D39 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitch@bitblock.com) Received: from a1200 ([24.83.187.201]) (AUTH: LOGIN mitch@bitblock.com) by bigass1.bitblock.com with esmtp; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:46:38 +0000 X-Abuse-Reports: Visit http://www.bitblock.com/abuse.php X-Abuse-Reports: and submit a copy of the message headers X-Abuse-Reports: or review our policies and procedures X-Abuse-Reports: ID= 40C3668E.0000DF72.bigass1.bitblock.com,dns; a1200 ([24.83.187.201]),AUTH: LOGIN mitch@bitblock.com From: "Mitch (bitblock)" To: "Rene de Vries" Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:46:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8EBC1C3A-B7E1-11D8-BD82-00039357FA7A@canyon.xs4all.nl> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: "David J. Hughes" cc: 'Joe Hamelin' Subject: RE: 2 adsl connections load balancing with natd/ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:46:42 -0000 Hi Rene - just in case you have insight on the other problem - client A can't see client B - each client has an ATM path to the router, but as they don't have a path to each other - and they are on the same subnet, A expects traffic for B to be simply switched, so doesn't route it - which is a problem - as B never sees the traffic. Another way to solve my problem might be to use separate subnets? Assuming Client A was on one subnet, and client B was on another... could the router have an address (on the same interface!) in both subnets (aliasing) and route back over the same interface? My current method of dealing with this is to use VPN software to create private mesh networks between the clients... Any ideas appreciated! Thanks! m/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rene de Vries [mailto:rene@canyon.xs4all.nl] > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:47 AM > To: Mitch (bitblock) > Cc: 'Joe Hamelin'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; David J. Hughes > Subject: Re: 2 adsl connections load balancing with natd/ipfw > > > > > > Client A <-----\ > > X.X.X.2 \ > > ----------> Router <-------------> > > / / X.X.X.1 X.X.Y.2 > > X.X.X.3 / / > > Client B <-----/ / > > <------/ > > X.X.X.4 > > > > Router is FreeBSD based, and Client A and Client B are also FreeBSD > > based, > > and have a second interface to the internal networks at Client A and > > Client > > B. > > > > I'm wondering if my other problem (the fact that Client A can't see > > Client B > > as there is an ATM path for it to Router, but as Client B's addresses > > are on > > the same subnet, and not bounced off the Router (and there is no > > direct ATM > > path) there is no connection... > > > > Any help or advice greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > m/ > >