From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 19 16:07:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06775 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06720 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:06:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07973; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:33:29 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA06850; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:33:28 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980120103328.07046@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:33:28 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , daniel_sobral@voga.com.br, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Device Driver References: <7395.885225385@time.cdrom.com> <199801191949.MAA05838@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199801191949.MAA05838@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mon, Jan 19, 1998 at 07:49:53PM +0000 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jan 19, 1998 at 07:49:53PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> 2) Would someone document *somewhere* what the hell is the syscon key code >>> that's supposed to bring up the kernel debugger? I had to USTL for this. >> >> Heh heh. How do you think stuff like this _gets_ documented? Someone >> like you finds that its not doc'd, gets really annoyed, then submits >> his diffs to the handbook or FAQ in order to prevent others from >> having to go through the same learning process - without that level >> of general annoyance, it's unlikely that anyone else will document it. :-) > > I think there should be a console message about "type xxx to enter the > kernel debugger" when the kernel debugger has been enabled. This is > better than a man page documentation, since the hotkey can be changed, > and the only accurate information there is must be obtained from the > kernel data segment. That's a great idea. While we're at it, how about messages about what key combinations to use for switching VTs? And what key combinations to use to erase a character, send a SIGTERM, kill a line. Yes, I know that this often appears, but it's in a format that's confusing for a lot of people. And, of course, how about a message explaining how to log on? Or that you need to press "Enter" at the end of a line? Or that you can find most things in the man pages, and that the kernel debugger's documented at http://www.lemis.com/handbook/handbook267.html#601? Greg