From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 23:25:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCBC16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A2913C44B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A58B9.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.88.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB4NPl33021046; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:25:48 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB4NQ6Ka032551; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 00:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost.js.berklix.net [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB4NQ6pW080576; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 00:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200712042326.lB4NQ6pW080576@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Chuck Robey In-reply-to: <4755D8BC.2060405@chuckr.org> References: <4755D8BC.2060405@chuckr.org> Comments: In-reply-to Chuck Robey message dated "Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:46:20 -0500." Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:26:06 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: FreeBSD-Hackers Subject: Re: kernel config for networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:25:52 -0000 > it. Right now, I have a cheapy junk-pile card that probes as a dc0 > working, but my motherboard has two nfe's (nfe0 & nfe1) that show up on > the desmg. If I use ifconfig and activate them, the whole machine comes > to a complete halt (complete, neither console nor ssh sessions work, > machine is dead to the world apparently) and this starts whenever I use > ifconfig to turn up either nfe0 or nfe1. > > I've complained before, but a new possibility occurred to me, while I > was slowly reading the NOTES in /sys/i386/conf, that the networking > stuff is very sensitive to order. Is that still true? If I have a dc > device and a nfe device, do I need to be aware of anything as regards > the config file statement order? I always preserve kernel ordering same as GENERIC, costs little time & can save agro/ risk. If that doesnt fix it, maybe try nve for comparison (thoug of course nasty binary), here's an extravt from a mail: -------- Old driver was called NVE, - Ran at 100 Mbit/s but falsely reported running at 10. - Was based on common binary only code common to Microsoft Linux & BSD. For FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE New NFE driver available some months as a set of source patches, steadily improving. FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE (out soon) will have NFE & NVE inbuilt. ( FreeBSD-7.0-BETA3 has it already ) FreeBSD-6.3-RELEASE (out soon, same time as 7.0 ) will Not have NFE inbuilt ------- Pyun YongHyeon has posted stuff to stable@ on nfe Message-id: <20071024084934.GF11234@cdnetworks.co.kr> BTW Search engine on www.freebsd.org hsnt been good for Message-IDs for months, google is better (Open & Net use google not own, maybe FreeBSD should) http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20071027030921.GC25452 -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff.