From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 10 15:19:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451B1106566B for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3A58FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9966969; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:19:34 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9966967; Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: <4D0244FD.9010706@radel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:19:25 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101107145424.6972.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020504090905020708020905" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz, xaero@xaerolimit.net Subject: Re: THE SPAM WE GET [stop fretting and read] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:19:36 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020504090905020708020905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/10/10 9:46 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > No, this list does not. > > As I mentioned yesterday, this is an unmonitored, unnannyed list that a= ccepts emails from addresses without checking authenticity... meaning I c= an post from 4 emails (and I have) and not be subscribed on each address.= > > Spoofing email addresses has happened for years, and with this list's a= rchives being publicly available online it's been happening for a while a= nd will continue to happen until the rules may or may not be changed. > > -- > Ryan > If this discussion is about the same wave of spam I've been getting=20 examples of in the last couple of days, it should be noted that the mail = isn't coming via the mailing list at all. Somebody is harvesting e-mail = addresses and subject lines from a month or more ago and sending the=20 spam directly. Folks, you have to read the headers if you want to have a sensible=20 discussion about specific instances of spam. If you don't, you're=20 simply sending yet more noise that's kinda sorta pretending to be signal.= My personal rule of thumb with spam is to assume that absolutely=20 everything involved is a lie, this leading to a more accurate overall=20 assessment than the naive thought that any of it might possible be true=20 just because of some social contract. After careful analysis, you=20 *might* conclude that a few things actually are true, but that's=20 different than assuming they are. So, Subject: that look like they're=20 from the FreeBSD mailing list: lie. From: address that of somebody you=20 discussed that topic with on the mailing list: lie. Date:: lie. All=20 lies with one goal, to get you to click through on a URL that is *not*=20 (another lie, get it?) in your self-interest to visit. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms020504090905020708020905--