From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 21:39:41 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 3 21:39:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.i-logic.ch (mail.pwh.ch [194.38.160.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF2237B400 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from toto (pop-be-3-2-dialup-112.freesurf.ch [194.230.165.112]) by mail.i-logic.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9C5ACB0 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:39:35 +0100 (CET) From: freebsd-questions@leonini.ch To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:41:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: system management Message-ID: <3A541B17.20366.199AEBC@localhost> Priority: normal References: <001401c075fb$1e981ba0$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm an "old" user of Linux and I'm going to replace Linux by OpenBSD and/or FreeBSD. I used Linux since two year on web servers, and I can said that i haven't had real problem reguarding performance and stability. So i could continue to use it, but I'm not very satisfyed by the facility of maintenance. The problem with Linux is: 1_ There is lot of way to manage software (rpm, deb, source, ...) and if you use different software manager (like combining source and rpm), you have inconsistency in the rpm database. For my server I generally used source, because the applications I compiled (like appache-PHP) require a lot of parameters that an rpm can't hold. And with rpm, you can't easily have multiple instance of a programm running. 2_ There is not a simple way to make your system completly evolving. I mean that is quite impossible to pass from a release X to a release Y of a distribution with package update only. The main problem is to update the glibc. I hope to find in BSD, a way to manage my system more easily. I think the ports and the CVS can help in that, more than packet managers in Linux distro. But, can we really in FreeBSD update a 3.X release to an 4.X or 5.X doing a CVSUP and then a make world ? Do you really use "make world" on server, taking the risk of a potential problem ? There is a way to configure the system (using a cron job) to get via CVS the latest release of all the software already installed (and only the software already installed), and if there is new release to "make install" them ? (My dream is to do that automatically, like that I don't need to manually update the system, when there is a urgent vulnerability, for example.) Thanks in advance and excuse me for my shit english :) Leo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message