From nobody Mon Oct 20 20:49:03 2025 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cr6wx0t1bz6D6bn for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cr6ww5t9Xz3QYW for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-93e847a443fso283940239f.0 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1760993355; x=1761598155; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=v8tS6Y9iYwdfKc6p9SyCUxf0ZEaLEbMt/r9d8DjclSI=; b=Ra/hBKo6rqc8wMmGkZos1y0KIQXGusDOQJIMiBe90Ct2EKy8RWkeWF7DF7bvAZC7GR HHp43v4j83CTmjZjdHUh2N2JqWeOzirUKCWplT/8UVJVB6B036hwi4ZhUSbOzPF2KcVw JqZYJARlbSsHlJzW0DPbhvFvl6dXp10awP5G/f5xx14cRzaRglr2AUDRZ2ULtzhlO3zh gFt3gBadDsQZ/aVd8f/b/zUM3SL7xhuVo/9ODmZ3U02L3/yXabTi+bVdReai7YOQIWl/ t8053d9wJCMZYjkVMoVrj0lKiYB80YECHKXm1bOskVH6U87XVBUZsOdh+GBByRLA9TOw yZ7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1760993355; x=1761598155; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=v8tS6Y9iYwdfKc6p9SyCUxf0ZEaLEbMt/r9d8DjclSI=; b=CYlfy9Mw19U8KyKiPbk4nPG/oPAMPNg9RijHTuG/x12N+YvHq9w+FTOzsMDl3lmcQe /S+vlNqGkP4Iy40Fzi01559hYSz6NlYMXAsCUfbcBduugY6v1IxfLyqA5hSjSnbzYntx Exen0l5kdyzYDLc06d+QHXuiKXtCu5E9Eoe6MaLL+DWRoT5Z6xTSv173vFj9SHAza4wA C62WH3O7Q/an8W2fd7DybO9q+Dv8sFVjh1CS8E0iksY4PfvjSBd566VJUlN70PSZ8RrD xKfPcLCULkVEqO80S13enxN5Jk893+yYBcWBzVcbBvtlBKdvdqBKwiLSgMmj9+vtTaQL wJsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzxiEw40fCooDWs/1L6CpksdHdviWtP6tuB9/KIs+lDFihkM4UP xs45r7xSampXRVWB0RBC4BZKYV/BLZYxmjYtsrK60kh1Z7SCa6nke/qlmtDAqZxdSbTLT4+Fd4B fktT2E9wX2WZCpxCBJ8NHFcHw4dWzMTtVZw== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctqxFw9ADRivJUx5mxNn5vzpIwsNS6DiBiMhATZU1P4Ahky6f8Q9nnIBsBUbWi 48mKgQ/cNSbysee7BhsbHvIjt0SpyWEPPcW1ptBTD94DL4MnhJNK6C+VR4BNAEBc1FYPAim7scm A9kIX2L/x0+2qcEQlv4wtWdsOfZDiLJf6BdQSztp3bSli8gYUd4FpSIr2hb9mJXYQauPgK6fuXl qBJiwdvL13mbjc1kkhlfDe+82JdtI14Lija6Pt1Dp3fEzYExMAO4VbsdbH78YR2barGAOCj0spx rx75IgyM5nZcVIT3PDNaSr6JcdR/2ybzKuYH5mOW/PRWV0qb3YHpzcFu7d0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHXd43iy1LOpJhcCqDWC67NIHxCk95Y5Uw9pses8x6QD/iAWBYkLPYhGl0tbQGpfsO8T4jBv7TxvqQ2SNNe9dA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:3e06:b0:430:ac4a:4dc7 with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-430c519b3acmr216426945ab.0.1760993354662; Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:49:14 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20998fc7-08a5-44d9-9f59-a8f6a9136340@twisted.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20998fc7-08a5-44d9-9f59-a8f6a9136340@twisted.org.uk> From: Freddie Cash Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:49:03 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AS18NWAcfKq14WlGf-Zu7Ovhf0nw9X-Sxv9IBMOL2eH1VArfMTCh0GQAWP9f9Xc Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 15.0-BETA2 Now Available To: Pete French Cc: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005b5edc06419d37d5" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cr6ww5t9Xz3QYW --0000000000005b5edc06419d37d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 1:11=E2=80=AFPM Pete French w= rote: > On 20/10/2025 18:04, Colin Percival wrote: > > No, pkgbase is considered "experimental" in 14; the intended upgrade pa= th > > for 14.x (and older) systems is > > > > 1. FreeBSD Update to 15. > > 2. Run pkgbasify at some point during the lifetime of 15.x. > > 3. Use packages (probably via a freebsd-update front-end) to upgrade to > 16. > > So will we be able to carry on with buildworld / installworld after the > end of 15 ? IF not then whats the new process for people who cpmpile > their own stuff ? > "make buildworld" will remain. "make buildkernel" will remain. "make installkernel" and "make installworld" will be replaced with "make packages" (or similar, I haven't done this yet so not sure on the exact command). Then you use pkg(8) to update the repo info and to upgrade the installed packages using the ones you just created. Similar to how things are done in ports. You use poudriere to build packages via the ports tree. Then use pkg(8) to install/upgrade using the newly-built packages. --=20 Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com --0000000000005b5edc06419d37d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 1:11=E2=80=AFPM P= ete French <pete@twisted.org.uk> wrote:
On 20/10/2025 18:04, Colin Perci= val wrote:
> No, pkgbase is considered "experimental" in 14; the intended= upgrade path
> for 14.x (and older) systems is
>
> 1. FreeBSD Update to 15.
> 2. Run pkgbasify at some point during the lifetime of 15.x.
> 3. Use packages (probably via a freebsd-update front-end) to upgrade t= o 16.

So will we be able to carry on with buildworld / installworld after the end of 15 ? IF not then whats the new process for people who cpmpile
their own stuff ?

"make buildworld= " will remain.
"make buildkernel" will remain.
"make installkernel" and "make installworld" wil= l be replaced with "make packages" (or similar, I haven't don= e this yet so not sure on the exact command).
Then you use pkg(8)= to update the repo info and to upgrade the installed packages using the on= es you just created.

Similar to how things are don= e in ports. You use poudriere to build packages via the ports tree. Then us= e pkg(8) to install/upgrade using the newly-built packages.

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