From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 11 03:50:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9686A1577152 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 03:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from vps349.pairvps.com (vps349.pairvps.com [216.92.231.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A241D7255C for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 03:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [104.220.39.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vps349.pairvps.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A615DA5684; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: question re: your system's primary use? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Frank Fenderbender In-Reply-To: <1446C6EE-3DD7-4311-98F2-97250D4702EE@council124.org> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:49:56 -0700 Reply-To: Frank Fenderbender Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D66F411-647A-4CE3-87CD-B837B6D2F43D@council124.org> References: <43760917-5FAA-4C75-A4D2-923A5EA0E624@council124.org> <2d7ff5f5-603f-004d-31fc-14eef658997e@holgerdanske.com> <162715a2-dc44-0555-29b9-50ca75af46e6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <85694074-E3B1-4AC3-A742-FEB8BD4BA9B0@council124.org> <1446C6EE-3DD7-4311-98F2-97250D4702EE@council124.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A241D7255C X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of frankfenderbender@council124.org designates 216.92.231.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=frankfenderbender@council124.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.88 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[frankfenderbender@council124.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:cegray.mail.pairserver.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailwash31.pair.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.344,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7859, ipnet:216.92.0.0/16, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.905,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HEADER_FORGED_MDN(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[council124.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.924,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.14)[asn: 7859(-0.64), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 03:50:05 -0000 Prefatory note to question (skippable) I am trying to assess, w/o much success, on whether development = on and verification for=20 FreeBSD for software applications is realistic. I realize that the 'questions' list is primarily for solving = install and configuration bumps,=20 however, I trust the wealth of experience of its membership. If I can tally the ways to which the platform is being used, = perhaps I can predict better how my time=20 would be spent in terms of configuring, tweaking, fixing, = ratio'ed with time spent developing and testing=20 cross-platform/platform-independent code sets." My first engineering job was in 1989 at Tektronix, where we = worked on the Standard Tektronix Interface (STI)=20 layered above the graphics engine on Tek workstations (613x; = 43xx XD88) based in Motorola 68020/88000=20 chipsets beneath the UTek operating system, which was the = Tektronix on-board hybrid-UNIX supporting=20 both 4.2BSD and System V commands. I was verifying that STI's Fortran-callable C and C-callable = Fortran code had identical results. In a way,=20 this use is similar to what I would be using a BSD system for = today. We used stistdio.c and stistdio.f as places where the varying = Unix ioctl commands (and equivalents)=20 could be set by customers using unsupported platforms. Many, if not most list users' questions seem specific to build, = dependency, bug or omission workarounds,=20 special-case installs, and/or conflictive add-on settings, the = actual usage is a bit obscured or oft-unmentioned=20 w/r/t the question(s)/answer(s). So, for my "question" can you just check what use your system = has for you? I hope to ascertain whether anyone exists is using it as I hope = to, and that will tell me if I will have commonality=20 within a list sub-group? If you can suggest another list or = forum, which exists for using FreeBSD desktop as=20 a development-test environment, I would be very grateful. Question Do you use your FreeBSD system as: [ ] server [ ] firewall [ ] development-test environment [ ] daily desktop (email/browser) [ ] other (rough detail?) Thanks, "frank" frankfenderbender@council124.org