From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 13 19:17:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF3616A41A for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdathome@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mo4no.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1FC13C469 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdathome@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mr2no.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr2no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.144.213]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JW600GL7YWFIJ10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:17:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from pd6ms1no.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.145.192]) by pd5mr2no.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JW60064DYWF7YH0@pd5mr2no.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:17:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (pd6ms1no-con [10.0.145.192]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JW6005EZYWFIOC0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:17:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.144.232] (Forwarded-For: [10.0.146.232]) by pd6ims1.prod.shaw.ca (mshttpd); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:17:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:17:03 -0800 From: Andriy Babiy In-reply-to: <200802130316.56903.danny@ricin.com> To: Danny Pansters Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <47AFC80B.8090303@gmail.com> <47B1F890.1090408@chuckr.org> <200802130316.56903.danny@ricin.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:17:06 -0000 > Let me be the one to point out the (next) controversial thing: > here's a > perfect example why using linux binaries for stuff like this is > a dead end. > > And don't even start about the PC-BSD folks who want to make > flash9 work.... > via WINE. > > We need a native flash or a replacement for the animation side, > and where > flash is merely used as a video container, we have not option > but to use > youitube-dl, miro, and the like. But there too, some native > solution is > needed, otherwise it will continue to work like crap if at all. Personally, I tried both gnash and swfdec. It was several months ago. They worked just fine on some sites, silently didn't work on other sites. But the problem was that sometimes I saw another behaviour: after opening a webpage I couldn't interact with the computer at all. Mouse was moving on the screen, but nothing could be done either by mouse or keyboard. Actually, the only button working on the computer was power off on the front panel of the computer, next to reset... So, I felt browsing the internet just like a miner game: if you catch the "wrong" site, you need to reboot. I can't afford that, so I removed them and installed back the linux flash player. I'm not sure what exactly caused the problem - flash itself, or something between flash and KDE; I would be able to live with that if native flash didn't hang the computer, if it just didn't work silently. Have you tried native solutions recently? Andriy