From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 6 16:06:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF816A46C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.farley.org (farley.org [67.64.95.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693B913C4A6 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Received: from thor.farley.org (thor.farley.org [192.168.1.5]) by mail.farley.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lA6G6HH2033501; Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:06:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scf@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:06:17 -0600 (CST) From: "Sean C. Farley" To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <47308E19.70507@samsco.org> Message-ID: References: <200711041119.45971.jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> <472DD231.9030501@gmail.com> <472E67CC.9040201@delphij.net> <472E4FF0.3080801@gmail.com> <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> <472F466E.8050405@delphij.net> <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> <20071106153509.GB91218@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47308E19.70507@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.farley.org Cc: d@delphij.net, Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, "Aryeh M. Friedman" , Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:06:39 -0000 On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Scott Long wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:37:27AM -0600, Sean C. Farley wrote: >>> 1. Dell Optiplex 745: >>> ATA channel 2: >>> Master: ad4 Serial ATA II >>> Slave: no device present >> >> Intel Q965 + ICH8, which does SATA300. atacontrol output proves the >> disk is capable of SATA300 (re: "Serial ATA II"), but for some reason >> it's not. > > SATA II does not automatically mean 3GHz link speed. It's just an > umbrella term meaning that the drive implements one or more features > defined in SATA-2. It's similar to the mis-representation in the USB > world of what USB 2.0 means. In this case, it is does support SATA/300: http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=83 >> This one is indeed odd and needs investigation. >> >>> 2. Asus P5K-E/WiFi: >>> ad10: 152627MB at ata5-master SATA150 >>> ad12: 152627MB at ata6-master SATA150 >>> ATA channel 5: >>> Master: ad10 Serial ATA v1.0 >>> Slave: no device present >>> ATA channel 6: >>> Master: ad12 Serial ATA v1.0 >>> Slave: no device present >> >> Intel P35 + ICH9. The chipset does SATA300 but your disks do not -- >> they are Barracuda 7200.7 disks, which support SATA150 maximum. >> However, the motherboard also has a JMicron controller on it. Correct. This system only has SATA/150 drives (both HD's and DVD). >> After looking at >> http://www.farley.org/freebsd/tmp/SATA/dmesg-asus.boot, it's easy to >> determine that your SATA150 disks are connected to the ICH9 >> controller (which is being reported at ICH8 for some reason; maybe a >> chipset ID thing). They are not connected to the JMicron, so the >> SATA150 limitation here is caused by the disks. I did not apply my patch to this build, otherwise, it would be in the log. I just do not know if the patch ID's ICH9R only. >> The SATA ATAPI errors you see are something I can't really help with, >> many see these kinds of messages on all sorts of hardware. > > There seems to be a lot of differing technical opinions on SATA-ATAPI > support in FreeBSD. I'll be digging more into it shortly, but > probably not in time for the 7.0 release. Unfortunately, these timeouts cause problem for installs from SATA ATAPI drives. Maybe a release note would be warranted? I had to fall back to an NFS install. Sean -- scf@FreeBSD.org