From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Dec 16 02:11:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E069133854B; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 02:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05BAA6B5E4; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 02:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id YLtzg1qKu82YcYLu0gQn47; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:11:35 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NNSrBHyg c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=2ur7OfE09M0A:10 a=xfDLHkLGAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=H0GPC0OhAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=mo54iWl955AUacO25OsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IfaqVvZgccqrtc8gcwf2:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=KczGKrPSgCPlefTG41c3:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5262F5D3; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 18:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wBG2BTXa070043; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 18:11:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id wBG2BRwN070040; Sat, 15 Dec 2018 18:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201812160211.wBG2BRwN070040@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Warner Losh cc: Cy Schubert , Eugene Grosbein , George Neville-Neil , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r342139 - in head: . bin/date libexec/rc/rc.d share/man/man5 tools/build/mk tools/build/options usr.sbin usr.sbin/timed In-Reply-To: Message from Warner Losh of "Sat, 15 Dec 2018 18:36:08 -0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 18:11:27 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfO8fTK4f3iDlwYvVjuAUVBzwYdE07bB08C3/VRGtwZo03yx+qp37e3nyOJpQAg4ZM5krug+dteGZZMQCHsnBMU7VT1fzLrvWqZoOTIz11LRcZHdSLIQW QTmyh8UzpK//C/59KXtq11vLlItYJe86xyFmiuIQt9JcQWZVuiuxc76fMGvVoThzi28zCdEkYPrNijOnLTIbd0R9OoTPPvxQb0PVN2lkmkwCpemzKB14oO2W r8xfBYaw1QgfKTkIf4HCTM81WjMh72GVDBS2ZkjintZfSyTZe4DXdsZ/LRFx6cwDfHc2qPA97MhhrxKuNOG7u72kTuN98UTr8tLREyeB2UA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 05BAA6B5E4 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.99)[ip: (-4.75), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-2.83), asn: 6327(-2.26), country: CA(-0.09)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spqr.komquats.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.58)[-0.575,0]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[138.136.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 02:11:44 -0000 In message , Warner Losh writes: > --000000000000fca822057d19b03f > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018, 5:54 PM Cy Schubert > > In message <7a528b98-f554-4d34-a5cb-aa5496a89f3e@grosbein.net>, Eugene > > Grosbein > > writes: > > > 16.12.2018 4:34, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > > > > > > > Author: gnn > > > > Date: Sat Dec 15 21:34:40 2018 > > > > New Revision: 342139 > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/342139 > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > Remove, the now very outdated, timed. > > > > > > > +20181211: > > > > + Remove the timed and netdate programs from the base tree. Setting > > > > + the time with these deamons has been obsolete for over a decade. > > > > + > > > > > > Is there any replacement software arounnd for timed protocol? > > > > > > I still run some telco hardware that uses my FreeBSD/timed as time source > > > because it cannot use any other protocol, not NTP nor SNTP. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe someone could add it to ports. Ideally maintaining upstream on > > github. > > > > My initial thought was we could port the NetBSD version but theirs is > > arguably just as ancient as ours. > > > > On a juxtaposed topic, how would one export an eclectic set of > > directories from svn to git? My last experience doing that was painful > > because there was more than one subdirectory involved and most of the > > doc out there talks about only one. > > > > I did it for CTM. If people want, I can do it for this too... But CTM was > only one dir... > > Warner Personally, I'm less interested in timed and more interested in how to. Last time I tried it the first directory was easy. Adding the second subtree was the hard part. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.