From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 8:59:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0CB37B400; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tpts5.seed.net.tw (tpts5.seed.net.tw [139.175.55.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B7543E09; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from is88232@cis.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from [61.59.241.52] (helo=cis.nctu.edu.tw) by tpts5.seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet MTA build 20010831) id 17Q8zq-0006y9-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 23:58:18 +0800 Message-ID: <3D247210.4030407@cis.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 00:04:32 +0800 From: Chung-Lin Tang User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011222 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey Cc: David O'Brien , "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended MP development machines... References: <20020703233926.N66398-100000@april.chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: >On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > >>On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 07:43:22PM -0700, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: >> >>> I know everyone says "they all work" but i'd like some recommendations on >>>MP machines for -CURRENT work. I'll be ordering one this week. >>> >>There is but _1_ dual system to get -- Tyan Thunder K7 (code name Guinness). >>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7.html. It comes in multiple >>flavors, but mine is the dual-channel Ultra160, dual-3com 10/100, 5-64bit >>PCI, 1 AGP version. You can cheap out and not get the non-SCSI S2462NG >>model. Match this bad-boy up with a pair of fast Athlon `MP' (not `XP') >>CPU's and it is a totally solid system. Various FreeBSD committers also >>have this system. >> >>There is a newer [more economic] version called the Thunder K7X. >>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7x.html >> > >"more economic" is a poor way to describe it, seeing as it has all the >features, plus (1) an updated version of the AMD mp chipset and (2) a >fixed onboard usb port. The K7 had a broken on-board usb (the AMD >chipset had a PCI contention bug for the usb port, so the tin back panel >of the board blocked out the usb, and the K7 came with a PCI usb card, >which ate up one of your PCI slots. The K7X has a repaired on-board usb, >so you get that PCI slot back. > That was a problem with the 760MPX chipset, the Thunder K7 uses the earlier 760MP which doesn't have that problem. > > >The main difference in the updated chipset is the fact that the 64 bit PCI >slots now run at double-speed, giving double the throughput. No change >for the 32 bit PCI slots. At least for me, the main usage of the 64 bit >slot would be the disk; seeing as both the K7 and the K7X can be had with >a very nice dual channel Adaptec Ultra160 controller, which means you >don't use the 64 bit PCI slot for disk, that kills that. Added cost >for the controller is about $100, not a bad deal. > >I think the K7 had only AGP; the K7X has AGP-Pro; doesn't mean much yet, >but if you're a gaming maven, maybe it'll be important pretty quickly now. > Both has AGP-Pro. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, >chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and signal processing. > >New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up >fictitious words in the dictionary. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message