From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 17 12:45:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D40E16A4CE; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:45:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wsrv.matik.com.br (wsrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309FC43D46; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h@matik.com.br) Received: from pc3.matik.com.br (pc3.matik.com.br [200.152.83.9] (may be forged)) by wsrv.matik.com.br (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAHCjEdW010407; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:14 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from h@matik.com.br) From: H Organization: Infomatik To: Peter Pentchev Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:36 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200411131937.36024.h@matik.com.br> <20041117121014.GP970@straylight.m.ringlet.net> In-Reply-To: <20041117121014.GP970@straylight.m.ringlet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1879046.IdhbbodyKr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411171045.40880.h@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.73, clamav-milter version 0.73a on wsrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,ISO_7BITS, J_CHICKENPOX_23,SMILEY,TW_GT autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on wsrv.matik.com.br cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: lioux@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD edonkey-gui-gtk-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:45:21 -0000 --nextPart1879046.IdhbbodyKr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 17 November 2004 10:10, Peter Pentchev wrote: Thank you for your answer. You answered in name of ? I like to add only to shorts here: Any responsible person should be interested in anythink what could deal wit= h=20 the name of product or services he represent. The issue is not running as root or any advice about not to do so. The issue is the word NOOB. A decent advice as "Please do not run as root" and if you really want to ad= d=20 "--as-root" to the command line would be perfectly correct and do not offen= d=20 anybody and states the good education and respect of the responsibles. H > On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 07:37:34PM -0200, H Matik wrote: > > about edonkey-gui-gtk-0.6.2_1 > > Now, a couple of points here right from the start :) > > You seem to have an issue with a port, a part of the FreeBSD Ports > Collection. While it is great that you want to report this issue to the > FreeBSD Project - this is the only way we can actually find out what > users like and dislike, and the only way we can fix it in the next > releases - please note that neither the freebsd-doc list nor the Board > of Directors of the FreeBSD Foundation is a suitable place to complain > about it. The best person to contact would have been the > net/edonkey-gui-gtk port maintainer, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira > , as you have already done; apart from the > maintainer, the best, if not to say only, place to report port issues > should be the freebsd-ports mailing list. There is absolutely no reason > for CC'ing the -doc list, and about CC'ing the FreeBSD Foundation BoD - > well, I dunno what to say :) > > Now, about your complaint, see below... > > > I could have gotten a realy bad impression about freebsd after > > installing the edonkey-gui-gtk-0.6.2_1 port. > > > > I think it is really not developer's issue WHO runs a programm. > > > > So may be it may be usefull to give a security advice but not a > > stupid message box as yours saying to run with > > > > --noob-wants-to-run-as-root > > > > First I thought that FreeBSD's level was real higher and still > > believe in this and not in such kind of childish flame comments. > > > > So please make professional valuable comments but do not offend or > > humiliate people. > > This particular problem - that the GTK interface to edonkey displays a > message box when you try to run it as root unless you also specify that > command-line option - is not the "fault" of the FreeBSD port in any way > > :) This is the way the program itself behaves - the ChangeLog in the > > source tarball says that this was added back in December 2003. If the > author of a program has decided that for any reason, security or > otherwise, his program should not be run as root, or should be run as > root only in special circumstances, it is *not* for the FreeBSD port > maintainer to decide to remove that obstacle. The point of the FreeBSD > Ports Collection is to take third-party programs and get them to run on > FreeBSD, so the users can actually use them; the point is NOT to modify > the programs, ignoring the intent of their original author. > > G'luck, > Peter --nextPart1879046.IdhbbodyKr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBm0f0sfbtJeMv82gRAg3VAJ98H/d3tOR9Y06tEd7i9FiYWVul4wCfSABh MoVTi+H6gl3+ILTsnyaFJsI= =DMHP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1879046.IdhbbodyKr--