From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 3 10:35:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04281 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04276 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA08660; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA07663; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:36:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: hoek@hwcn.org, David Nugent , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <536.870586606@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > How does the ports system fail? > > > > Packages don't need sources. They are the moral equivalent to > > We're not talking about packages here - we're talking about > sources. I addressed the source issue. To repeat what I said before, but in brief to reduce the temptation to skip-over it, packages are used to install binary things just as sysinstall can install a binary-only system w/o sources when wanting source and binary pkgadd is followed by make extract make world checks /var/db/pkg for ports that need to be remaked I'm not volunteering to write this and the number of other extensions needed, since I think slow, evolutionary change is what is needed and I can't make a longterm commitment right now, but I am trying to show that the idea is not so undoable as you (seem to) try to make it sound. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk