From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 5 9:40:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D600537B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.50.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E49043E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/ - 15/04/02) with ESMTP id g75GdTeb084439; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:39:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g75GdSVj084438; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:39:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:39:28 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ross Lippert Cc: anderson@centtech.com, cjuniet@entreview.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/41106: FreeBSD Handbook lacks "Desktop Applications" chapter. Message-ID: <20020805183928.B82972@abigail.blackend.org> References: <3D4E88A3.8060401@centtech.com> <200208051455.HAA18220@eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200208051455.HAA18220@eskimo.com>; from ripper@eskimo.com on Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 07:55:38AM -0700 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 07:55:38AM -0700, Ross Lippert wrote: [...] > Since we are proposing an experiment, and since the contents will be > biased (in either review or testimonial form), perhaps we should start > by putting up little articles on our own homepages, and convincing > others on doc to do so, make september the "write about your fav app > month". We can submit URLs to be linked to from FreeBSD.org, and if > it takes off and we end up with an explosion of articles (say by > January or else assume we failed), we move to phase II, which > necessarily involves more indexing and organization, perhaps more > automated feedback to authors. If momentum keeps up, I don't see why > it could not be made part of freebsd.org or the /usr/doc as long as a > big fat disclaimer for bias is present. Not to mention that if this > experiment ever becomes "official" we can ask people involved in projects > or port-maintainers if they wouldn't mind jotting down some power-user > notes on their apps. > Is it the role of The FreeBSD Project to provide docs about third party applications that are not FreeBSD specific? Does a doc about mutt has his place in FreeBSD's docs? Ports give a link to the application homepage, it's already a good start to find doc, and install the documentation pages (manual pages and other info files). > How does that sound to you? When the use/configuration of the app is really FreeBSD specific, for me, it deserves a specific doc when the author of the app does not provide it, and does not support FreeBSD. It was done for many commercial apps coming with Linux binaries for example. > > Oh another source for "good ports" info: > I think bsdtoday.org has some howto's on it for things like VMWare and > stuff, but I'm sure it is just an archive with no one maintaining it > -- yet it remains my first resource for setting up VMWare, I know no > other. There should be another. > It's an example of application that needs a "FreeBSD doc". I wrote in past for the FreeBSDZine a doc about VMware2 and I can affirm it was 99% of FreeBSD specific informations. There is a site that publishes docs about FreeBSD and about use of some applications, with a possible feedback to authors, it's http://www.freebsddiary.org/. The owner of that site runs http://freshports.org/ too. Maybe something is possible about extra docs on ports apps etc. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message