From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 08:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B037B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr2.xmission.com (mgr2.xmission.com [198.60.22.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF2A43FEC for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mail by mgr2.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19NwED-0004sT-02 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:00:33 -0600 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr2.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19NwDv-0004jb-02; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:00:16 -0600 Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h55F5hBM061409; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:05:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h55F5esi061408; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:05:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:05:40 -0600 From: Greg Lewis To: Alexey Zelkin , Ernst de Haan , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030605150540.GB61297@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20030604172238.GA25212@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <200306050835.15998.ernst.dehaan@nl.wanadoo.com> <20030605114444.A60385@phantom.cris.net> <20030605093201.GE9038@starjuice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030605093201.GE9038@starjuice.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.9 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) Subject: Re: Experimental patchsets X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:01:15 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:32:01AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/06/05 11:44), Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > > Can't say anything for jdk13, but it's bad idea for jdk14. At least now. > > > > Those who'll be able to build jdk14 from patchset and wanna try it > > should expect problems and be ready for them. > > But those who are able to build jdk14 from a port marked -devel should > also expect problems and be ready for them. :-) > > Seriously, I don't see how increased exposure could hurt. I'm not saying that its a bad idea, but here are some of the problems: 1. The checksum will change every week when the next patchset is auto-generated. This one is actually pretty easy to solve though, I can auto-commit the checksum change when I upload the new patchset. 2. Any given patchset may not compile, may break in other ways, may require arbitrary changes to the port, etc. Staying with the old patchset won't be an option since its getting overwritten, so the maintainer is going to have to do quite a bit of maintenance to keep the port in sync with the patchset. Also note the havoc this may cause should another port come to depend on jdk1?-devel. Note that the second one specifically defeats my reasons for putting out experimental patchsets - a low (time) cost way (for me) to get out more recent work for people to test/use without having to do release testing and the like. That is to say, I'm all for someone who wants to do the work to maintain this, I'll even do the automated commit of the checksum changes as noted above, but I won't be creating such a port. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org