From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 15 06:02:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD07A16A4E4 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:02:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DDA43D39 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:02:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1D0vnG-0006fi-24 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:02:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <8310509120.20050215063232@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050213152331.2B00E16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> <1722947768.20050215023424@wanadoo.fr> <1497115560.20050215024836@wanadoo.fr> <06433BF9-7EF5-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> <8310509120.20050215063232@wanadoo.fr> Message-Id: <33A6E066-7F17-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:02:41 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:02:44 -0000 On Feb 14, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: > >> You can say all you want. > > Thank you. I feel better about it knowing that it's okay with you. > >> Every professional designer I have ever talked with lamented the poor >> state of standards conformance of IE for Windows. > > They probably never actually tested the browser. no they did and could point out specific problems and likely intentional changes. Google on this issue of Windows IE standard compliance, especially with CSS. You will find reams of info with examples of where MS got it wrong, and many think intentionally got it wrong. Chad > >> And they could document it. > > Excellent ... where can I find a copy of their documentation? > >> MS only has compatibility with itself, and that is it. > > It interprets HTML correctly according to W3C standards, and it handles > CSS correctly as well. What other compatibility do you require? > > You can find test suites here: > > http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Test/ (HTML4) > http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/ (CSS) > >> And since it is the 800lb gorilla, they think they can basically do >> whatever they want. > > They know that some criticism of what they do has no basis in fact, and > that people without emotional investment in a hatred of Microsoft may > actually check the facts and invalidate the criticisms. > >> People I highly respect have done lots of tests of browsers with the >> standard and conformance to the W3C standards suites and IE Windows >> does not do that well. > > I've done the tests myself, instead of believing what others say, and > MSIE does fine. The URLs are above. > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"