From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 14:19:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C0716A41A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491BB13C44B for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so7096032pyb for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:19:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z0W9oYeICF00KpemeIfGXHXhK0VlDlLUBfE+QIODv7E=; b=nPDOH9tE57sf4M/iClPT8tMQj5ujVEqIgzV0lBwrv5GnRllO+Qn+LR8LQVSGwYJT6H0GWQC7wLxuZ+7o0WeDwWUTeVxW3JeiYuJjnw39GeUE9+f1PDrxks1cio3iiEJ4gGZA3nLRc9niTNyCmJMHqNO2yHm/HRTMHE5nmF/8SPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UQPyl75xK/WIKEobjPvfisjpJqOrOsvf5p0P+Ro+xNx0fg96wGmeoHr87UE8134vHzfMe7Opy1jZe35FewA/i9TJh8Xr/F8oGfOZ6QR0xH4atDoFRic8sw/0whoxmU63PRrk3WXge5to0f7LUkvX8zjB08z7mALExVKFPfxbxCU= Received: by 10.142.171.6 with SMTP id t6mr2114395wfe.1196691557615; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q18sm7100555qbq.2007.12.03.06.19.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:19:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47541063.4010101@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:19:15 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering (Repost from -ports@) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:19:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Repost from -ports@] As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHVBBj358R5LPuPvsRArclAKC8fVFVsva2DPmOQdTWw+/CT+wGywCfWvPl hbX2FSUdh6C61xTDJqnWf/M= =iCiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----