From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 6 23:06:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4BD106564A for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754E98FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so2392547ewy.13 for ; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.29.68 with SMTP id p4mr2608158ebc.31.1289084796316; Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.10.65 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 16:06:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101106225446.GC67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20101106190934.GB67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20101106200239.00004b64@unknown> <20101106203213.GC13095@guilt.hydra> <20101106225446.GC67566@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:06:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:06:38 -0000 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 06 November 2010: > > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 08:02:39PM +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:09:34 -0700 > > > Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I would recommend that configuration also, because FreeBSD is > > > > much more lightweight of the two, so you don't impose the overhead of > > > > running Windows when all you need is FreeBSD. > > > > > > I'm not sure that's true, actually. FreeBSD by itself may be a lot more > > > lightweight than Windows but once you add in Xorg and KDE I think it > > > needs about the same, if not more, memory. People will argue that you > > > don't have to run KDE or GNOME but as can be seen from the success of > > > Ubuntu people like complete desktop environments. > > > > Well, there's your problem -- you're using Windows Lite (KDE). > > > > Anyway, it appears to be fairly reliably reported that KDE and > > (especially now) GNOME still run lighter than the whole MS Windows GUI, > > even if they're much heavier than other options. > > > > -- > > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > > > I'm using FBSD xith Xorg sans KDE or GNOME quite productively. And with > everything running that I normally need, I use less than 1GB out of the > 4GB available -- less than 300MB on boot. Windows 7 wants the a whole GB > just to start up, or it's painfully slow. Actually, it's painfully slow > anyway -- and furthermore it imposes that pain on guest OSes as well. > > What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. > > Preference .... I use Gnome on occasion but I stick w/ {open|black|etc}box because I'm more a minimalist then anything and I abhor desktop icons ... even in windows, I turn them off. > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | > http://chipsquips.com >