From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 15 12:45:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CFFD6CD9C for ; Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) Received: from NAM02-CY1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092004073.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.4.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBB9D1D6E for ; Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@outlook.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outlook.com; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=vfIsa18W1kHJLOOeKs80c8t6QjJbPTAc62Ry6y5AshM=; b=Q4TekfOx9LjF6v5gcP6N/U2nsC1gOvb45EbLk88kCSV7jpw8GW+plsiqNsKjIpyPgbcaio2/XVEoFGl0Xv3MrjHLLwf3HLKGZarizrDrzentI/PwWMKMkoWiiJvLFZ5MDKNO2yDniTc+VN937qmQMIRoWdjiHzKt8g+rSnMFOcm/mrXZBnZJmXOCZZy4Whr2wRUZyAMw1cjqcHrQDGWRGydUdixosr6CHW5/8m8sUILwE4UaFTZmb2DPnjVAXmE5Dg4tQMWDuUpWGdsEeGrKTCbwQkzQl1oumceJDvgqmEKA47jKJcaactlSC793wiYCvsbY8ygoFJJAGTx7qPu03g== Received: from CY1NAM02FT052.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.52) by CY1NAM02HT143.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.1075.5; Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:10 +0000 Received: from CO1PR20MB0695.namprd20.prod.outlook.com (10.152.74.58) by CY1NAM02FT052.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.123) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1075.5 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:10 +0000 Received: from CO1PR20MB0695.namprd20.prod.outlook.com ([10.166.35.23]) by CO1PR20MB0695.namprd20.prod.outlook.com ([10.166.35.23]) with mapi id 15.01.1084.027; Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:09 +0000 From: Gerard Seibert To: User questions Subject: Re: Printer advice Thread-Topic: Printer advice Thread-Index: AQHSzXkW6BTpMFnDb0O+NxOvgVA1wQ== Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20170515034820.bdf00cfb.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170515135930.28962077@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20170515135930.28962077@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Reply-To: User questions Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: freebsd.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;freebsd.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=outlook.com; x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:B8CB40C2B671B12E8B62BD3D7D4D4CD658764E8BE6E404C45121AE62E91B3982; UpperCasedChecksum:542C542FFE5CC25F8672B978099E42155E0BA72A4B9FEE74F125076494A8E24A; SizeAsReceived:8178; Count:43 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1NAM02HT143; 5:TE8xjxmWQlWQGgVS76b6fH44btGbl2sMarssIdrKeVXZJ2fjCGl5/GjNvLmzfX7jgk2Zg8qFFO7TmWuuaOI0zqKPUlM2bLSMlybFM3zJyGDltU/D60nGKKhFQ7z9voqexPZ9iKuKsSG6LDOCjNc8ow==; 24:AcwbjXGOkoSicfne6VAwAG2MIGFS+RZ1QIQanSzitFO6Obt4m3sbxUXx/iAQyrMuas66G5jvH5Lrn6Iz6BmIxMFONWP4k0iKG2w/CsX1zpY=; 7:ZRyhxcq0aijVUacU5hEIsvne21GQa165iD5MXjhFpOfgOyy8L3ejIwSPeL2IzLHix31xkwiKglIf0H9Tsh/s6/zUGW2SkMrG8BjkK1OY60nVnO3FZseSBvkZHSoe81UjCtzUrDfT3Za8KC0BBsvSI7rtRR93dfUsNiCCaj7aZlRakeiK8rd6xlfVSK4OGryCCG8QKTSVeAe1fW5KOroTFlbMBY1Ys29XeyvhY8NUZ8w3VkF+j/PgTEs2VLKryOxx4omBKylFTBIEuNTf7KttjlQ0bov7rtLVOBh2v3DAD1OO81s24yerGL8sx2WUHrf6 x-incomingheadercount: 43 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(7070007)(98901004); DIR:OUT; SFP:1901; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT143; H:CO1PR20MB0695.namprd20.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 86faf068-9bcd-4dfd-e0f7-08d49b9037f6 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(22001)(201702061074)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031324274)(2017031323274)(2017031322274)(1601125374)(1603101448)(1701031045); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT143; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(444000031); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT143; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT143; x-forefront-prvs: 0308EE423E spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <45F356AD3500F342AAA45E2C57B29A2D@namprd20.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 May 2017 12:45:09.7827 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1NAM02HT143 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 12:45:12 -0000 On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:59:30 +0200, Tijl Coosemans stated: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 03:48:20 +0200 Polytropon > wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2017 20:40:43 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill wrote: =20 > >> Second, let me clarify that I would really prefer to stay away > >> from CUPS if possible. I use lpr and printcap, with occasional > >> printing from applications whose names start with "gn." What I'm > >> after is a printer that works out of the box with minimal > >> hassle. =20 > >=20 > > So you'd be best prepared with a printer that understands PS or PCL. > > You can generate PCL easily with gs (called via printcap), and PS is > > no problem because it's the default printing output format of all > > applications anyway. =20 >=20 > The standard print format for applications has been PDF for a while > now: > https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_f= ormat Over a year ago, I reported that PDF was the new "standard". Personally, I believe that PDF is superior to and more readily accepted than PS. In any case, yesterdays "standards" will be obsoleted by todays "standards", which in turn will be mothballed by tomorrow's more technologically advanced "standards". I love standards, there are so many too choose from. The only thing "standard" about a "standard" is that it will be superseded by another "standard". That is why I try to not get too attached to any one "standard". --=20 Carmel