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Date:      Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:29:39 +0100
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@freebsd.org>
To:        webmaster@freebsd.org
Cc:        Lee Crites <adonai@jump.net>, Ade Barkah <mbarkah@hemi.com>
Subject:   Re: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial.html 
Message-ID:  <199703171429.PAA20997@vector.jhs.no_domain>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:03:37 CST." <1.5.4.32.19970102190337.006dc91c@jump.net> 

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Hi webmaster@freebsd.org
cc: Lee Crites <adonai@jump.net>, Ade Barkah <mbarkah@hemi.com>

Well, I'd like to see my list 
	http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/freebsd/consultants.html
in the main web area (ie not under ~jhs) so it'd be on CD-ROM too, 
  (ie where it's see-able by customers)
but it's up to webmaster if & when he/they want to do that.
As I've just added a couple more entries, that may not have been rdist
uploaded yet to ~jhs, I've enclosed it below.


Reference:
> From: Lee Crites <adonai@jump.net> 
> Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial.html 
> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:03:37 -0600 
> Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970102190337.006dc91c@jump.net> 
>
> At 02:29 31-12-96 -0700, Ade Barkah wrote:
> 
> >Yes. However, Julian's page doesn't easily convert into commercial.html
> >entries. As more people add their free-format entries to commercial.html,
> >the advantage becomes less noticable. Anyway, we'll wait before adding 
> >the link until everyone can make their comments. =-)
> 
> I take this as a request for comments...
> 
> That being the case, I'll toss in my 2 cents worth.  I looked through the
> web page when I first *ordered* the FreeBSD cd's and book from Walnut Creek.
> If there had been a complete list of companies and individuals in the Austin
> area I could have called, I'd have been a really happy guy.  All I found was
> a single isp that never called me back.
> 
> If I had my wish, there would be a link to a zillion companies and individual
- s. 
> I'd like to see it indexed by:
> * location (state/city)
> * what kind of company they are (isp/consulting/whatever/individual)
> * name.
> 
> I'd even like to see it put on the BSD-DOCS cd so for that period of time
> after I loaded FreeBSD and *before* I got it working enough to get back on
> the internet I would still have had access to the list.
> 
> Also, I'd want this list as complete as possible.  When I've seen lists like
> this (I'm on one in the Pascal arena), they try to limit the people listed.
> You know, only the big companies or the 'recognized' consulting companies,
> etc.  I'd rather have all 100 people in the Austin area listed and make lots
> of calls than only one or two that might not return my call/email.
> 
> >The above link is invalid. Please create a "public_html" directory
> >at freefall and put grog.html there.
> >
> >In case you read this before www.freebsd.org rebuilds, you can preview 
> >the page at http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial.html, but just imagine 
> >that link to Julian's page doesn't exist yet. =-)
> >
> >To everyone else... this is the time to send in your submissions. =-)
> 
> With the above taken into account, would you mind sending out a sample with
> the 'perfect listing' so we can do the editing work instead of making you do 
- it?
> 
> Thanks muchly...
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
--------
<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>
FreeBSD Commercial Consultants Index
</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>

<H1>
FreeBSD Commercial Consultants Index
</H1>

<B>
Does your company needs to purchase professional computer
consultancy for FreeBSD at commercial rates ?
<MENU>
<LI>If Yes .... This Index is for You !

<LI>
If No .... Sorry,
<BR>
This page is for companies
seeking to purchase commercial support at professional 
computer consultancy rates.
</B>

</MENU>

<H2>Which Type Of Consultancy Do You Need ?</H2>

<MENU>

<LI>
<B><A HREF=#full>Professional Full Time Commercial Consultants</A></B>
Available full time,
(40 hours per week, 50 weeks per year).
Consultant available 
to concentrate 100 % exclusively on solving your 
particular client requirements in minimum elapsed time.
Consultancy available both on and off client site,
custom enhancements, full support,
maintenance, training, upgrades, hot line support,
someone to be held personally responsible ?
<BR>

<LI>
<B><A HREF=#part>Part Time Consultants</A></B>.
who do not offer all of the Full Timer's services listed above,
but who may (or may not) be somewhat cheaper than full timers.
<BR>

<LI>
<B>
<a href="mailto:questions@freebsd.org">
Free Amateur Support
</B>
</B></A>
for private individuals provided by volunteers 
on an email list `if-interested' & `no-liability' & `no-response-time-guaranteed' basis.</B>
<BR>

<LI>
<A HREF=http://www.sypher.com/tbm/Consultants-HOWTO/>;
<B>Linux Commercial Support List </B>
</A>
(May be useful if there's no FreeBSD Consultant in your city, as both FreeBSD & Linux have a similar `full sources available' culture, they share some code (eg lpd & wine etc) 
& some consultants are on both FreeBSD & Linux lists.
</A>

</MENU>

<H3>Notes</H3>
<Menu>
<LI>
Consultants are indexed in <B> Reverse Geographical Order</B>
to help firms 
find a physically local presence.
<LI>
Hourly rates etc, are not included.
Such details vary,  & are usually only a guide,
further details by Web or Phone etc.
<LI>
Format of tables below may change.
<LI>
<B>PLEASE SEND NEW PRE-FORMATTED ENTRIES TO <a href="mailto:jhs@freebsd.org">jhs@freebsd.org</A></B>
</MENU>

<H2>Table Order</H2>
<menu>
<li>
<B> 
[ COUNTRY ] ; [ REGION ] ; [ CITY ] ; [ STREET ] ; [ FIRM ] ; [ PERSON ] ; [ PHONE ] ; [ FAX ] ; [ MODEM ] ; [ ISDN ] ; [ EMAIL ] ; [ WEB ] ; [ Optional COMMENT ]
</B> </menu>

<A NAME=full>
<H2>Professional Full Time Commercial Consultants</H2>
</A>

<MENU>
<LI> Germany ; Bavaria  ; Munich D-80469  ; Holz Str 27d ; Vector Systems Ltd  ; Julian Stacey ; +49.89.268616  ; +49.89.2608126  ; +49.89.26023276  ; +49.89.26023276  ; <a href="mailto:jhs@freebsd.org">jhs@freebsd.org</A>  ; <a href=http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/vsl/vector.html>http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/vsl/vector.html/</A>;  ;  [Comment]
<LI> Germany ; [Region] ; Dresden D-01277 ; Tolkewitzer Str. 49 ; Interface Business GmbH ; Joerg Wunsch ; [Phone] ; [Fax] ; [Modem] ; [Isdn] ; <a href="mailto:ifb@interface-business.de">ifb@interface-business.de</A>  ; <a href=http://www.interface-business.de/>http://www.interface-business.de/</A>;  ; [Comment]
<LI>Germany  ; Hessen  ; Feldatal  ; [Street] ; [Firm] ; Greg Lehey ; +49.6637.919123  ; +49.6637.919122  ; +49.6637.919120  ; +49.6637.919120  ; <a href="mailto:grog@freebsd.org">grog@freebsd.org</A>  ; <a href=http://www.freebsd.org/~grog/grog.html/>http://www.freebsd.org/~grog/grog.html/</A>;  ; [Comment]
<LI> USA  ; Colorado  ; Boulder  ; [Street] ; [Firm] ; Warner Losh  ; +1.303.652.8092  ; [Fax] ; [Dialin] ; [Isdn] ;  <a href="mailto:imp@village.org">imp@village.org</a> ; <a href="http://www.village.org/villagers/imp/consulting.html">; http://www.village.org/villagers/imp/consulting.html</a>; ; A wide range of development and support services available.
<LI>[ USA ] ; [ Mid-Atlantic ] ; [ Silver Spring, MD ] ; [ 3316 Kilkenny Street ] ; [ US Net Incorporated ] ; [ Dave Stoddard ] ; [ 301-572-5926 ] ; [ 301-572-5201 ] ; [ 301-847-1103 ] ; [ 301-369-8304 ] ; [ dgs@us.net ] ; [ http://www.us.net/ ] ; [ US Net is a full-service Internet access and software engineering firm in the mid-atlantic region. ]
<LI>USA;Texas;Houston;[STREET];GB Data Systems;Gary Clark II; 1-713-294-2094;[FAX];[MODEM];[ISDN]; <a href="mailto:sales@gbdata.com">sales@gbdata.com</a>; <a href="http://www.gbdata.com">http://www.gbdata.com</a>; FreeBSD ISP and Internet consulting, startups, gateways and support.
</MENU>

<A NAME=part>
<H2>Part Time Consultants</H2>
</A>
<MENU>
<LI> Australia ; South Australia, Adelaide ; No Street ; No Firm ; Michael Smith ; +61.8.8267.3493/0411.222.496 ; +61.8.8267.3039 ; [Dialin] ; [Isdn] ; <a href="mailto:msmith@gsoft.com.au">msmith@gsoft.com.au</a> ; [Web] ; Available for all support & development issues, after hours/weekends preferable.
<LI> Canada; Ontario; Kitchener; [Street]; DDM Consulting; Dave Chapeskie; +1.519.576.7094; [Fax]; [Dialin]; [ISDN]; <a href="mailto:dchapes@golden.net">dchapes@golden.net</a>; [Web]; [Comment]
<LI> USA ; California ; San Francisco ; [Street] ; [Firm] ; Josef Grosch ; +1.415.355.5206 ; [Fax] ; [Dialin] ; [Isdn] ; <a href="mailto:jgrosch@sirius.com">jgrosch@sirius.com</a> ; [Web] ; [Comment]
<li> USA ; Colorado ; Boulder ; 695 Manhattan Dr ; The Rosetta Group ; Sean Kelly ; +1.303.494.7210 ; +1.303.494.5974 ; +1.303.494.5974 ; [Isdn] ; <a href="mailto:kelly@fsl.noaa.gov">kelly@fsl.noaa.gov</a> ; <a href="http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/">http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/</a>; ; Eight years Unix experience in systems and network administration, software development, and system construction.
<li>USA ; Kansas ; Wellington ; 1402 N. Washington ; Open Systems Inc. ; Chris Watson ; +1.316.326.7545 ; [Fax] ; [Modem] ; [Isdn] ; opsys@open-systems.net ; http://open-systems.net ; [Comment]
</MENU>

<H2>Cross References</H2>
A Cross reference to this page exists from
<A HREF=http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial.html>;
http://freebsd.hemi.com/commercial.html</a>; (done by Ade Barkah <mbarkah@hemi.com>)

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