From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Jan 16 05:08:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228FB2294EE; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ysdr04Pdz4Shl; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from weatherwax.trouble.is (weatherwax.trouble.is [46.235.227.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "weatherwax.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: philip/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA9CF1DBF6; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@freebsd.org) Received: from rincewind.trouble.is (rincewind.trouble.is [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2a:1715::1:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "rincewind.trouble.is", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by weatherwax.trouble.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47ysdp4rsHz1SZ5; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rincewind.trouble.is (Postfix, authenticated sender philip) id 47ysdj4TKmz4Jfd; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:07:53 +0000 (UTC) From: "Philip Paeps" To: "Oliver Pinter" Cc: "Ben Woods" , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, "Ed Maste" Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:07:46 +1000 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5676) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <202001150747.00F7lqiG071097@repo.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 05:08:00 -0000 On 2020-01-16 04:57:28 (+1000), Oliver Pinter wrote: > On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, Ben Woods > wrote: >> Author: woodsb02 (ports committer) >> Date: Wed Jan 15 07:47:52 2020 >> New Revision: 356758 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/356758 >> >> Log: >> bsdinstall: Change "default" (first) Partitioning method to ZFS >> >> Reported by: Ruben Schade (during his talk at linux.conf.au) >> Approved by: philip >> Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23173 > > What's the justification behind this change? This came up during the Q&A after my ZFS talk at Linux.conf.au earlier this week. Someone pointed out that if you install FreeBSD without engaging your brain and "just press enter a few times", you'll get a UFS system. In the vast majority of cases where you install FreeBSD like that, you really actually want a ZFS system. As Ed wrote elsewhere in this thread, the installer "defaults" should be what most people actually want. Note that Ben's patch doesn't actually make it any more difficult to get a UFS system if anyone wants that. The only thing it does is move ZFS to the top of the list of options so "enter enter enter" gets you a ZFS system instead of a UFS system. > Plus I miss from here the relontes tag. I'm not sure if this merits a release notes entry but ... sure. There is not actually a functional change here. It's just a defaults change. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises