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Date:      Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:47:27 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        marcel@xcllnt.net, wes@softweyr.com, mike@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/sio sio_pci.c
Message-ID:  <20030219011727.GN56479@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030216.213258.45874826.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <20030216155645.H74149@espresso.bsdmike.org> <200302170113.14659.wes@softweyr.com> <20030217014615.GA88060@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030216.213258.45874826.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Sunday, 16 February 2003 at 21:32:58 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <20030217014615.GA88060@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net>
>             Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
>> I think imp has to be openly in dispute with himself in order for
>> any or both of him to be punishable. I think we, as a group, should
>> take into consideration that they, imp, have a good record so far
>> and this instance of venting by some of him is forgivable.
>
> Warner doesn't like what imp does late at night to the cardbus code.
> imp thinks Warner is too conservative and tries to seank things into
> the code.  Warner and imp quarrel much over this and other issues that
> aren't really relevant.  While Warner and imp sometimes quarrel, we
> try to keep it out of the commit logs.  We appologize for having this
> quarllel spill into the commit logs.

I think imp should apologize to himself (and also himself to imp),
then we can probably do without any further punishment.

I'm reminded of this exchange a couple of years ago, which I made into
a slide leading in to an SMP presentation:

From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>

On 21-Nov-00 John Baldwin wrote:
> jhb         2000/11/21 13:10:15 PST
>
>   Modified files:
>     sys/kern             kern_ktr.c
>   Log:
>   Ahem, fix the disclaimer portion of the copyright so it disclaim's the
>   voices in my head.  You can sue the voices in Bill Paul's head all you
>   want.
>
>   Noticed by: jhb

Oh geez.  That should be 'Noticed by: jlemon'.  I guess the voices
are getting a bit too rambunctious.

From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org>

In message <XFMail.001121133952.jhb@FreeBSD.org> John Baldwin writes:
: On 21-Nov-00 Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message <XFMail.001121131818.jhb@FreeBSD.org> John Baldwin writes:
: >: Oh geez.  That should be 'Noticed by: jlemon'.  I guess the voices are
: >: getting
: >: a bit too rambunctious.
: >
: > It could be worse.  You could be talking about yourself in the third
: > person.  Warner hates it when he does that.
:
: Well, I'm sure Warner will have a private discussion with Warner about
: doing that in public.

Warner will do that only if Warner notices.

: I wonder how the voices do their locking...

Warner Speculates that Warner's voices don't do locking.

From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>

On 21-Nov-00 Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <XFMail.001121133952.jhb@FreeBSD.org> John Baldwin writes:
> : Well, I'm sure Warner will have a private discussion with Warner about
> : doing that in public.
>
> Warner will do that only if Warner notices.
>
> : I wonder how the voices do their locking...
>
> Warner Speculates that Warner's voices don't do locking.

John thinJohn's voices are too inks that the consefficient to useole driver
doesn't ha sleep locks and endve any lock up sping yeinning a lott.
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Greg
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