From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 24 12:13:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA09A153E5 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-115-234.charm.net [209.143.115.234]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20857; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:11:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <383C46DF.AEC101A5@charm.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:13:19 -0500 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: Brooks Davis , James A Wilde , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? References: <00e101bf3681$44cb04a0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> <19991124103253.B2554@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <19991124135521.44585@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 24 November 1999 at 10:32:53 -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:39:01PM +0100, James A Wilde wrote: > > > >> And I don't really think vi is crap. It's just that the only thing > >> less intuitive in its natural state than vi is probably emacs. >> and moves out of the war zone> . > > > > You aren't going to get any argument from me there. ;-) > > OK, I've said my piece here, and I disagree entirely. But it's not up > to me; I've been using Emacs and similar editors for 20 years. The > real question is: what do newbies think? Anybody want to comment? > Also, Brooks, have you *used* Emacs? Recently? If so, I'd like to > know what you consider non-intuitive. > > > Actually, if you're going to spend much time in UNIX, you should at > > least have basic proficiency with vi since it's always there and > > emacs may not be. > > There I agree entirely. I do use vi for exactly this reason. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > Just emacs for me. man vi every time for me when I get stuck without emacs or pico. However, ee is handy when debuggin' a kernel config that went stray. You know, ee 'the config file' while in single user mode. That was not a real good example but that is what ee is for. I may be wrong? -d --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message