Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 12:21:53 -0500 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Old problem still present on 11-ALPHA1 - Pi2 Message-ID: <5682bff2-3033-194a-67bf-32ba0cdada37@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <62d7d041-2de5-639f-5c1e-76f9682e6cc8@selasky.org> References: <32ad8bb3-f0a6-c86b-1b23-aae9af4442ea@denninger.net> <62d7d041-2de5-639f-5c1e-76f9682e6cc8@selasky.org>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080702060605080301070700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/11/2016 11:38, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 07/11/16 18:15, Karl Denninger wrote: >> I have two PI2s on the same switch here doing quite-different things. >> >> One never shows network problems. The other one does this: >> >> .... >> >> ukphy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >> ue0: <USB Ethernet> on smsc0 >> ue0: Ethernet address: b8:27:eb:08:12:1c >> ugen0.4: <Inateck> at usbus0 >> umass0: <Inateck product 0x5136, class 0/0, rev 2.10/0.01, addr 4> on >> usbus0 >> umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks =3D 0x0100 >> umass0:0:0: Attached to scbus0 >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: <Inateck 0> Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device >> da0: Serial Number 00000000000000000000 >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >> da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors) >> da0: quirks=3D0x2<NO_6_BYTE> >> random: unblocking device. >> smsc0: chip 0xec00, rev. 0002 >> ue0: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0: link state changed to UP >> ue0.2: link state changed to UP >> ue0.3: link state changed to UP >> ue0: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.2: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.3: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0: link state changed to UP >> ue0.2: link state changed to UP >> ue0.3: link state changed to UP >> ue0: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.2: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.3: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0: link state changed to UP >> ue0.2: link state changed to UP >> ue0.3: link state changed to UP >> ue0: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.2: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0.3: link state changed to DOWN >> ue0: link state changed to UP >> ue0.2: link state changed to UP >> ue0.3: link state changed to UP >> >> Every now and then (every hour or so) the interface flaps. If I plug = a >> USB interface in and use two network cords I *still* get the flapping.= >> This unit has very low (but non-zero) traffic on the network, while th= e >> other actually has *more* traffic on the network yet is completely >> stable. Since both are plugged into the same physical switch I doubt >> the switch itself or its firmware is involved in this. >> >> The only difference I can see is that the one that flaps is using >> vlans. Specifically, that machine is the network's dhcp server, and i= t >> is on three different vlans (untagged and two tagged) so it can provid= e >> addresses (and DNS services via unbound) to those VLAN interfaces. >> >> This appears to be somehow linked to the ue interface driver, because >> another machine (Intel based) that is also on multiple vLANs via the e= m >> driver does *not* flap. >> >> I don't know if this is actually arm related or not; it might not be i= f >> Intel machines also use the "ue" driver, but it's very consistent on t= he >> PI2 if I want to use vlan tags whether I have one or two interfaces (t= he >> second via a USB adapter of course) in use or not. >> >> Other than the flapping the box appears to run fine; the flaps do, >> however, sometimes stop reporting from the snmpd daemon so I have had = to >> stick a cron job out there to restart that on a schedule to prevent it= >> from interrupting reporting to my traffic management tools. Whether t= he >> two are related is not known with certainty (but I suspect it is.) >> > > Did you try to set any media options, like 10MBps instead of 100Mbps ? > Yes; it makes no difference. > What does ifconfig say? > > --HPS No difference -- both are 100BaseTX connected. Machine with the problem: % ifconfig ue0 ue0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 15= 00 options=3D80009<RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,LINKSTATE> ether b8:27:eb:08:12:1c inet 192.168.1.200 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active nd6 options=3D29<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL> Machine without: % ifconfig ue0 ue0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 15= 00 options=3D80009<RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,LINKSTATE> ether b8:27:eb:85:21:de inet 192.168.1.214 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active nd6 options=3D29<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL> The only difference I can see between them is that the one that exhibits the flapping has vlans defined on the interface (which are working normally.) Current code on both machines: % uname -v FreeBSD 11.0-BETA1 #0 r302526: Sun Jul 10 10:39:31 CDT 2016 =20 karl@NewFS.denninger.net:/pics/CrossBuild/obj/arm.armv6/pics/CrossBuild/s= rc/sys/RPI2 However, this has been an issue since the first 11-Current builds that had RPI2 capability in them, so it's not version-dependent either. I have been unable to find a way to log the *reason* the flap occurs (e.g. nothing in the logs indicating why it thinks link-sense disappeared, if it actually thinks it did, or if something in the code performed what amounted to an interface reset.) --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms080702060605080301070700 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC Bl8wggZbMIIEQ6ADAgECAgEpMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4G A1UECBMHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBxMJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkwFwYDVQQKExBDdWRhIFN5c3Rl bXMgTExDMRwwGgYDVQQDExNDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhND dWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMB4XDTE1MDQyMTAyMjE1OVoXDTIwMDQxOTAyMjE1OVowWjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEDAOBgNVBAgTB0Zsb3JpZGExGTAXBgNVBAoTEEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBM TEMxHjAcBgNVBAMTFUthcmwgRGVubmluZ2VyIChPQ1NQKTCCAiIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD ggIPADCCAgoCggIBALmEWPhAdphrWd4K5VTvE5pxL3blRQPyGF3ApjUjgtavqU1Y8pbI3Byg XDj2/Uz9Si8XVj/kNbKEjkRh5SsNvx3Fc0oQ1uVjyCq7zC/kctF7yLzQbvWnU4grAPZ3IuAp 3/fFxIVaXpxEdKmyZAVDhk9az+IgHH43rdJRIMzxJ5vqQMb+n2EjadVqiGPbtG9aZEImlq7f IYDTnKyToi23PAnkPwwT+q1IkI2DTvf2jzWrhLR5DTX0fUYC0nxlHWbjgpiapyJWtR7K2YQO aevQb/3vN9gSojT2h+cBem7QIj6U69rEYcEDvPyCMXEV9VcXdcmW42LSRsPvZcBHFkWAJqMZ Myiz4kumaP+s+cIDaXitR/szoqDKGSHM4CPAZV9Yh8asvxQL5uDxz5wvLPgS5yS8K/o7zDR5 vNkMCyfYQuR6PAJxVOk5Arqvj9lfP3JSVapwbr01CoWDBkpuJlKfpQIEeC/pcCBKknllbMYq yHBO2TipLyO5Ocd1nhN/nOsO+C+j31lQHfOMRZaPQykXVPWG5BbhWT7ttX4vy5hOW6yJgeT/ o3apynlp1cEavkQRS8uJHoQszF6KIrQMID/JfySWvVQ4ksnfzwB2lRomrdrwnQ4eG/HBS+0l eozwOJNDIBlAP+hLe8A5oWZgooIIK/SulUAsfI6Sgd8dTZTTYmlhAgMBAAGjgfQwgfEwNwYI KwYBBQUHAQEEKzApMCcGCCsGAQUFBzABhhtodHRwOi8vY3VkYXN5c3RlbXMubmV0Ojg4ODgw CQYDVR0TBAIwADARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBaAwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgXgMCwGCWCGSAGG+EIB DQQfFh1PcGVuU1NMIEdlbmVyYXRlZCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZTAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUxRyULenJaFwX RtT79aNmIB/u5VkwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUJHGbnYV9/N3dvbDKkpQDofrTbTUwHQYDVR0RBBYw FIESa2FybEBkZW5uaW5nZXIubmV0MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4ICAQBPf3cYtmKowmGIYsm6 eBinJu7QVWvxi1vqnBz3KE+HapqoIZS8/PolB/hwiY0UAE1RsjBJ7yEjihVRwummSBvkoOyf G30uPn4yg4vbJkR9lTz8d21fPshWETa6DBh2jx2Qf13LZpr3Pj2fTtlu6xMYKzg7cSDgd2bO sJGH/rcvva9Spkx5Vfq0RyOrYph9boshRN3D4tbWgBAcX9POdXCVfJONDxhfBuPHsJ6vEmPb An+XL5Yl26XYFPiODQ+Qbk44Ot1kt9s7oS3dVUrh92Qv0G3J3DF+Vt6C15nED+f+bk4gScu+ JHT7RjEmfa18GT8DcT//D1zEke1Ymhb41JH+GyZchDRWtjxsS5OBFMzrju7d264zJUFtX7iJ 3xvpKN7VcZKNtB6dLShj3v/XDsQVQWXmR/1YKWZ93C3LpRs2Y5nYdn6gEOpL/WfQFThtfnat HNc7fNs5vjotaYpBl5H8+VCautKbGOs219uQbhGZLYTv6okuKcY8W+4EJEtK0xB08vqr9Jd0 FS9MGjQE++GWo+5eQxFt6nUENHbVYnsr6bYPQsZH0CRNycgTG9MwY/UIXOf4W034UpR82TBG 1LiMsYfb8ahQJhs3wdf1nzipIjRwoZKT1vGXh/cj3gwSr64GfenURBxaFZA5O1acOZUjPrRT n3ci4McYW/0WVVA3lDGCBRMwggUPAgEBMIGWMIGQMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECBMH RmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBxMJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkwFwYDVQQKExBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExD MRwwGgYDVQQDExNDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDIENBMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNDdWRhIFN5 c3RlbXMgTExDIENBAgEpMA0GCWCGSAFlAwQCAwUAoIICTTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZI hvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0xNjA3MTExNzIxNTNaME8GCSqGSIb3DQEJBDFCBEC0 UkIghdRNY/pYt4BizQt76jUrx2DS0jG3PzCJUQP92fx+YhI+/UEgYo1UnEhJ3+ZDtmls7P8A KDV6on21vAniMGwGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFfMF0wCwYJYIZIAWUDBAEqMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQBAjAK BggqhkiG9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICAUAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYI KoZIhvcNAwICASgwgacGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBmTCBljCBkDELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEDAOBgNV BAgTB0Zsb3JpZGExEjAQBgNVBAcTCU5pY2V2aWxsZTEZMBcGA1UEChMQQ3VkYSBTeXN0ZW1z IExMQzEcMBoGA1UEAxMTQ3VkYSBTeXN0ZW1zIExMQyBDQTEiMCAGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYTQ3Vk YSBTeXN0ZW1zIExMQyBDQQIBKTCBqQYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgZmggZYwgZAxCzAJBgNVBAYT AlVTMRAwDgYDVQQIEwdGbG9yaWRhMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlOaWNldmlsbGUxGTAXBgNVBAoTEEN1 ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMxHDAaBgNVBAMTE0N1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgQ0ExIjAgBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWE0N1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgQ0ECASkwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggIAGMhIei75 rOjmQllMf2j1yJbzXPD0mIkLbjMLR/T7c0JTknqCecuASuPScr9J06F+AEdwzAW37lXw7ajA MgfcyRDcT+qBZpKZ6mPlEsFHAH5stocdcs0uDew36ig8k8sE4ujApBMXzrcNMfNuQ0rw9q8n Hb/c/jcUoaZM2EJsL3jztqesIxKJiv0/iG7jfmoIn/fJFtnk5/Pj5QOLby2wvyoI+6NSkGJN LdgA3Fw6cAjg+bqdX/X0GIlmpNEvAx94jo9UtpzX85HEKKBuEX+REFWYpPVBgwETUWHlOh+X y/HBH5TnqWjKlNkx6OKQ9jNao2ZDLyYgLjr/qgNvKidNwo+g4oEFROUdtx3yoGApqOrzw9UC I3woD1ftJjV/bFZxD7XcKQjO3/pxLsMoPnG5p6v3aHhKpVPOuDPqAW4Fd232ABF1lHVwx5b8 Zt/JDo5xb7VpuYAq3efsgpzAMy9XaCBk7kf/7vkQbpq4pKWNUFowUCH6KeW0Iy3WIkxOo1vh LmICc+oeOwJfCS8OYD2ABDXQv8XsGykJU3l6HG4TwHDOAPW5R8ysXStQIlx0hodl0/iIuDpy MaiXzc83XYtk7ziS1weLbCsR9068GE1AcZt3v6nhOpqVe3LEyanZCiIdQ3H2zX/FLH8Szdcj FSl5bUImoUhWrlCEnohVo86teWQAAAAAAAA= --------------ms080702060605080301070700--
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