From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 22:30:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEF616A4DC for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel11.hp.com (atorelbas02.hp.com [156.153.255.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9403943D1F for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:30:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason.sheets@hp.com) Received: from cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.76]) by palrel11.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC8D16CB; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg13.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:30:46 -0800 Received: from 15.39.101.170 ([15.39.101.170]) by idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:30:46 +0000 Received: from jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com by idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net; 08 Nov 2004 15:30:45 -0700 From: Jason Sheets To: TM4526@aol.com In-Reply-To: <1d6.2f657330.2ec129b7@aol.com> References: <1d6.2f657330.2ec129b7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1099953045.606.39.camel@jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:30:45 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2004 22:30:46.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[978F2CC0:01C4C5E2] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: difference between releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:30:53 -0000 On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 12:57, TM4526@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/8/04 2:41:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > thad.butterworth@hp.com writes: > >As far as open-open source being the only one in beta, I work in > >development where our code is closed-source. Even we have to admit that > >our releases fit better into the category of BETA than RELEASE. > Which is pretty-much why I haven't bought or recommended anything from > HP since the LaserJet Plus. I wonder how they feel about you revealing that? > I do not represent anyone but myself on this list but I two feel that the time to voice my opinion has arrived. The opinion of a single user does not a user base make; every product has defects, every program has problems one can only hope that a product performs well the majority of the team in a cost effective way. If you haven't used a company's products for years you are not qualified to make any recommendation about them because you are not informed or educated about them. I'm sure you will agree making a recommendation with being informed is irresponsible and morally incorrect. You have contributed very little except spite and turmoil to this list, FreeBSD is a successful operating system in part because of the maturity of it's user base, I have not seen nearly as many extremists in FreeBSD as I have in other operating systems and that leads to a mature discussion with a voice of reason. Several times you have dismissed or attacked a member's post because "they did not even know about " but that does not necessarily detract from the value of the other post. You have spread misinformation and FUD about FreeBSD 5's performance on several occasions, made several unsupported claims and generally not contributed in a positive manner. > Please lets not get into "yet-another" open-source discussion. My only > point was that a "Release" should not be "just another snapshot", there > should be some "plan". If the 4 bozos who jump on everything I say will > just cut back on the coffee there wouldn't be so much BS. So when will you switch to decaf? Seriously though, in case you didn't notice this IS an open source discussion list, FreeBSD 5 is not just another snapshot it has undergone qualification and is in my experience and opinion very stable. If you would refrain from insulting people's intelligence, name calling and trolling people would not need to respond to your posts as they do. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what skills or knowledge you may have, knowledge without the ability to effectively interact with others is worthless and leads only to the unemployment line. In the future I hope that you will attempt to relate your opinions in a less confrontational way and present your opinion as what it is, a single person's view on something that may or may not be backed by fact (The use of IMHO is would be appropiate). FreeBSD is in general a great OS and my OS of choice hands down, however there are certain things other opearting systems are better at, this doesn't make FreeBSD bad it simply means someone else excels at a particular task. I hope that you can become a positive member of this list and support the wonderful and growing community. Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"