From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 14:21:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FEA106564A; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EDC8FC12; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (daffy.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.218]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8BEL2Bw003831; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:21:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q8BEKuRk049454; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:20:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) From: Ian Lepore To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20120911054608.GA72584@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <50451D6E.30401@FreeBSD.org> <20120903214638.GO1464@x96.org> <50453686.9090100@FreeBSD.org> <20120904220754.GA3643@server.rulingia.com> <20120906174247.GB13179@dragon.NUXI.org> <20120906230157.5307a21f@gumby.homeunix.com> <20120906224703.GD89120@x96.org> <20120907015157.GA29497@server.rulingia.com> <20120910135218.GA68128@dragon.NUXI.org> <867gs2hqtt.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120911054608.GA72584@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:20:56 -0600 Message-ID: <1347373256.1137.52.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:35:32 +0000 Cc: Arthur Mesh , Doug Barton , freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG, Xin Li , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, RW , Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:21:17 -0000 On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 22:46 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > -r just changes the sort order, which is probably pointless. > > I'm not wedded to "-r", but since you're proposing this to not use "-r", > which Ian Lepore suggested after instrumenting /etc/rc.d/initrandom and > looking at the output, please show a diff of two boots with "-r" and > without "-r" so can see what the change really is. > I observed that the order of displayed processes could differ from one reboot to the next, even on an embedded system where little else differed. It seemed to me that a difference in order, while small, might be significant. -- Ian