From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 27 03:53:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A3C16A480 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 03:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75D43D4C for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 03:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4R3r7Ek027803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 27 May 2006 13:53:08 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4R3r7wZ022023; Sat, 27 May 2006 13:53:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4R3r6sE022022; Sat, 27 May 2006 13:53:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 13:53:06 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Lyndon Nerenberg Message-ID: <20060527035306.GH744@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20060527024407.GA2525@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: [RFC] Removal of Fortran from the base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 03:53:11 -0000 On Fri, 2006-May-26 20:19:15 -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >On May 26, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: >> 1) History. A Fortran 77 compiler has been available in the >> base system since FreeBSD was known as 386BSD+patchkit. > >A Fortran 77 compiler has been in the base system since 4.2BSD. So was Pascal but we no longer have that. UUCP and games have been unbundled from the base system. Perl was removed from the base system due to the difficulty in maintaining it within the base system. - Nothing in the base system depends on FORTRAN. - It is a modular component that can be readily removed. - Its retention will increase the difficulty of migrating to gcc 4.x. - Several FORTRAN compilers are available in ports. I think it's removal is justified. -- Peter Jeremy