From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 15 22:32:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8A16A4CF; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C67843FB1; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:32:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (66-91-236-204.san.rr.com [66.91.236.204]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529F272D9B; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: Garance A Drosihn , Scott Long Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:32:07 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <3FB5C942.1010907@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311152232.07935.wes@softweyr.com> cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit time_t on sparc64, epilogue(?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:32:10 -0000 On Friday 14 November 2003 11:12 pm, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 11:35 PM -0700 11/14/03, Scott Long wrote: > >Switching to 64-bit time_t this late in the 5.2 cycle will > >likely cause more excitement than we can handle. ... > >...Why don't we put this on the TODO list for 5.3, and > >plan to do it in early January, assuming that Jake and > >Thomas are ok with it. > > Personally I am inclined to think that we have to stop > making ABI/API changes to 5.x or we will never ever get > to "5.x-stable". It would be nice if 5.2 were the last > set of API/ABI changes, so that people who install it can > at least have a painless upgrade to 5.3-release (which > will hopefully be 5.x-stable). Refraining from changing the ABI is one of the many thing that "STABLE" means in FreeBSD. We agreed quite some time ago there is too much to do to get everything in by 5.2 and pushed back the -STABLE timeline to 5.3. So you've been given a reprieve. And just think of all that testing time you'll have over the holidays to make sure it's really really right. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com