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Date:      Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:50:02 GMT
From:      Marc Silver <marcs@draenor.org>
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: docs/113464: Error regarding IPF and ALTQ in handbook
Message-ID:  <200801100750.m0A7o2Cn029136@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/113464; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Marc Silver <marcs@draenor.org>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, josh@tcbug.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/113464: Error regarding IPF and ALTQ in handbook
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:46:38 +0200

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 Hi there,
 
 I've done a bit of research into this and from what I can see, there is
 no direct support for ALTQ in IPFILTER itself.  However, everything I
 could find suggests that ALTQ/PF or DUMMYNET/IPFW can be used in
 conjunction with IPFILTER, provided that one is dedicated to traffic
 shaping and the other to filtering and NAT.
 
 To that end I've mangled the firewall chapter to update the information
 surrounding this particular issue.  
 
 Hope this helps,
 Cheers,
 Marc
 
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 @@ -151,12 +151,16 @@
        <acronym>PF</acronym>).  &os; also has two built in packages for
        traffic shaping (basically controlling bandwidth usage):
        &man.altq.4; and &man.dummynet.4;.  Dummynet has traditionally been
 -      closely tied with <acronym>IPFW</acronym>, and
 -      <acronym>ALTQ</acronym> with
 -      <acronym>IPF</acronym>/<acronym>PF</acronym>.  IPF,
 -      IPFW, and PF all use rules to control the access of packets to and
 -      from your system, although they go about it different ways and
 -      have different rule syntaxes.</para>
 +      closely tied with <acronym>IPFW</acronym>, while
 +      <acronym>ALTQ</acronym> may be used with <acronym>PF</acronym>.  
 +      Traffic shaping can currently be achieved with 
 +      <acronym>IPFILTER</acronym> by using <acronym>IPFILTER</acronym> 
 +      for filtering and NAT in conjunction with <acronym>IPFW</acronym> 
 +      and dummynet <emphasis>or</emphasis> <acronym>PF</acronym> with 
 +      <acronym>ALTQ</acronym> for traffic shaping.  IPF IPFW, and PF all 
 +      use rules to control the access of packets to and from your system, 
 +      although they go about it different ways and have different rule 
 +      syntaxes.</para>
  
      <para>The reason that &os; has multiple built in firewall packages
        is that different people have different requirements and
 
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