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Date:      Fri, 06 Sep 2019 15:18:24 +0200
From:      "Florian Schulze" <mail@florian-schulze.net>
To:        "Konstantin Belousov" <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: held  file reference issue with ZFS and nullfs
Message-ID:  <5B1BEA13-F8CB-4E3C-9236-629892AF48F5@florian-schulze.net>
In-Reply-To: <20190906124336.GE2559@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <45B080A9-DE0F-4633-91F8-71438408D4B8@florian-schulze.net> <20190906124336.GE2559@kib.kiev.ua>

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Hi!

On 6 Sep 2019, at 14:43, Konstantin Belousov wrote:

Thanks for the reply ...

> On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 12:44:46PM +0200, Florian Schulze wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Since FreeBSD 12 (updated from 10.3, I skipped 11.x completely, the =

>> box
>> started around 9.3) I have the issue that ZFS is not freeing up space
>> for some deleted files. The filesystems where this happens are =

>> mounted
>> into multiple jails via nullfs. Only one jail has write access, the
>> others are read only. When files are deleted the space for them is =

>> not
>> freed. I can still see their objects via zdb. When I unmount one of =

>> the
>> read only nullfs mounts the space is freed and the objects released.
>>
>> I already used lsof, procstat and fstat to see if any process still =

>> has
>> a reference to the file, but that is not the case. But it seems to
>> matter which nullfs mount is unmounted, it is always one of the read
>> only ones. The processes which access the read only mounts are
>> completely different, it only seems to matter that the files are =

>> opened
>> at all. Killing the processes doesn't help, only unmounting the =

>> nullfs.
> There were some bugs in past where nullfs referenced a lower vnode but
> did not dereferenced it.

Could you be more concrete about "past"? In the past of the 12.0 =

version, or during 11.x?

>> I have one zfs filesystem where this happens quite often, one were it
>> happens sometimes and a few others which have a similar setup and =

>> where
>> I never noticed it (though the average file size on them is smaller).
>>
>> I asked in #freebsd about this and koobs said I should write to this
>> list and CC kib@freebsd.org and mgj@freebsd.org
>> He also did a quick look at the nullfs changes between 10.3 and 12.0 =

>> and
>> spotted the following change, which he said I should mention as well:
>> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/commit/82f9c275c43da09f404546cceeff=
187a90ecc573#diff-81e7d6520611101890dd6425324dd8f8
>>
>> Is there a known bug there? Could the stale NFS handle cause the =

>> leak?
>> Where is that NFS handle coming from?
>
> So what is the exact version of your system ?  If 12.0, upgrade kernel
> to latest stable/12 and see if it helps with the leak.

I'm on 12.0-RELEASE-p3. I will probably be able to try 12.0-RELEASE-p10 =

during the weekend. Not sure I will find the time to try and compile my =

own kernel, or is there a way to do it using freebsd-update by using a =

snapshot? If not, I'd probably rather wait for 12.1.

Regards,
Florian Schulze



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