From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 19 22:18:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tierzero.apana.org.au (unknown [150.101.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D752837B400 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from PhD_1.testname.com.au (bra@dialup-9.pasa.apana.org.au [203.14.158.138]) by tierzero.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27101; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:47:58 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill Reply-To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au To: "Doug Young" , "Mike" , Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:40:17 +1030 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <001801c0827a$60a63460$020aa8c0@sixpak.net> <008201c0827c$e1ba1c40$847e03cb@apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <008201c0827c$e1ba1c40$847e03cb@apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01012016444104.02698@PhD_1.testname.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Strange.... I tried to install RH6.2 on free space on my second HD. It balked (permanently) when it came to installing X. Then I obtained FreeBSD 4.2. Installed X with no trouble at all. The monitor is a cheap generic SVGA, the card Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro (4MB). Does this mean that certain combinations of HW & SW simply won't work together? I still don't understand why RH would not install, where FreeBSD went "like a charm" when SFAIK the versions of Xfree86 are the same. Brian. On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Doug Young wrote: > > I've had exactly the same problems several times when I tried to install X, haven't been too concerned because my main use for FreeBSD has been gateway boxes that are probably better off wihout X anyway (seems most experts believe so for security reasons). > > Occasionally I get a 3.x "X" setup to work fine (never once a 4.x) although its not consistent enough to use regularly. I still have nightmares from my linux (gasp, cough, splutter) days thinking about KDE lockups / crashes etc and haven't yet used XFCE sufficiently to feel at homewith it .......If I really want a Unix GUI then I install Solaris 8 which works properly EVERY time & has reliable support for applications I use (particularly StarOffice / Oracle that as far as I'm aware are still quite experimental in FreeBSD). For what its worth, X is probably fairly straightforward but like most things its just the inadequate explanation about configuring it that causes lots of people so much aggro. > > If I did have a pressing need for FreeBSD 4.x / XFree something / StarOffice I'd be browsing sites like freebsddiary.org, bsdvault.net, mostgraveconcern (links from previous sites) which generally have docomentation better suited to us non-experts than official stuff like the Handbook etc. > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:46 AM > Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 and X > > > I've tried installing from CD (4.0) > I've tried installing from ftp (4.2) > I've tried installing the 5.0 current > ... > and in each case somehow the installation goes wacked when it comes to X. > > Everytime I try to run XF86Setup it pauses for 30 seconds and tells me it can't initialize the (X) server. > > What I WANT to do is install minimally, adding things as I learn and grow, not have everything but the kitchen sink installed and then try to make sense of it. But whenever it comes to X, I'm cursed. > > One time I got it running correctly, but somehow I ended up with parts of XFree 3.3.3 and XFree4.0 mixed up. It was a confusing mess. So I'm starting over for the 20th+ time. > > Is anyone else having install problems with X? What kind of install are you doing (I'm doing X-User, maybe I should go with developer to get source files?) and what version of FreeBSD are you using? (I'm TRYING to get 4.2 to work) > > Any help appreciated. > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- -- Regards, Brian ******************************************************** Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow Flinders University Institute of International Education Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 bastill@sa.apana.org.au ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message