From nobody Sun Apr 16 15:51:02 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Pzvml12Zzz45Zks for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Pzvmj3Jlxz4GMY for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=OGem9CVW; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Pzvmg38Sqz9sly for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:51:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1681660275; bh=o7O7z7rjPs+QcC6avmZ/6SDTII05Ac7E8g9vY09p0HA=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OGem9CVW+ZuFpSlQ6HYHrGqD1AKJ6t2XH7+MQ69lwumTffxeXsRDyPS+6Iy2Tt+mx WAap2IE4OvtYsdHMEhw0v0nro+T/DD1OhXGs72w7aGE+AJFQlz8o9B99duix/h4gi1 fhIWSj0OHlgyzExzNxJtHxclofFkgosoePlCid94= X-Riseup-User-ID: 0E84F12B26045BF8B42A9724443FAD47C499565E201C3B4C64B2084AC5D48133 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Pzvmf5zxNzFsTT for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <6dabf603dcaea28c2ab3389d13505c70314c0e70.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Docker From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:51:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6cbc4a9e-bbb0-bedb-2941-9511c4232312@tundraware.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <8E16D624-2655-4A10-844A-93E4F63E9859@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <078a1cf8-7ae2-c593-615b-f5f37fa2b3eb@timpreston.net> <06be3a1e-9319-1a21-88b9-4f87328ee127@timpreston.net> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <9efb1204ede36008eb1bc83b6048d9c41ea2ab86.camel@riseup.net> <6cbc4a9e-bbb0-bedb-2941-9511c4232312@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Pzvmj3Jlxz4GMY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 10:04 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > My point is that these extra pieces of tooling are not really "layers" > such much as ways to manage running containers at large scale.=C2=A0 They > are not needed or recommend for smaller use cases. Hi, my apologies for my half-knowledge, I was probably a little too biased. I'm that biased since nowadays even Linux packages are often replaced by containers (snap, flatpak etc.). Regards, Ralf