From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 2 05:56:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305CF16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:56:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA52D43D1F for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 05:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iA25u6v00647 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:56:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041101083738.053d32e8@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:56:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Glass [mailto:brett@lariat.org] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:41 AM > To: jsd@jdyson.com; Miguel Mendez > Cc: TM4525@aol.com; chat@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > At 08:32 AM 11/1/2004, jsd@jdyson.com wrote: > > >I don't believe that it is useless to keep the awareness of the > >licnese differences alive. > > It is not at all useless; in fact, it is very important. If the > differences are not pointed out, then the GPL and its malicious > anti-programmer, anti-business agenda wins by default. Only because of how the GPL people act, Brett. It is (at least, to me) a given that whether or not the BSD people speak up or remain silent on this issue, that the pro-GPL people are going to continue banging away on the GPL drums. I would agree to stop pointing out the differences if the GPL folks stopped telling everyone at every chance they get that GPL=Free Software. However, they continue to do this whether or not the BSD people spend time pointing out the differences. They do this when we aren't focusing on the differences and they do this when we are. It is like a big machine that continually day and night beats a 55 gallon steel drum, on and on and on without stopping. That is why if we give it up, that they are going to win by default. It is because they never, ever, shut up. > If someone > preaches that licensing differences are meaningless, then he is > either unintentionally or intentionally pushing Stallman's agenda, Absolutely. Stallman's agenda is to replace all software licenses, including the BSD copyright, with GPL. Arguing that the differences is not significant is just a prelude to the argument that "well as long as they are meaningless, why don't you just go ahead and use GPL, it's better" Ted